Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 26th Jun 2007 11:50 UTC, submitted by Michael
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "There's a problem with Solaris and Sun knows it. The installation experience of Solaris (along with other areas) could be greatly improved. The installer doesn't 'suck' as it's easy and known to Solaris administrators, but for a Linux or Windows user it could prove to be a bit challenging. For those of you that have never tried out Solaris, what we've decided to do is to show you this 'usability gap' with the installation process in Solaris compared to Linux. Is the experience really that bad?"
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Terrible Defaults
by deadmeat on Tue 26th Jun 2007 15:49 UTC
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The thing that annoyed me was that the default partitions and their sizes were terrible.

It didn't tell me I needed to setup spare partitions for the live update process.

Lastly it didn't use zfs, which at the time was my primary reason for using Solaris over anything else.

It took me more than one attempt to install a usable server with solaris. The process was more frustrating than it needed to be.

Sometime in the next few months I have to repeat the process with another server. At least I should have better hardware support this time.

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RE: Terrible Defaults
by Robert Escue on Tue 26th Jun 2007 16:19 in reply to "Terrible Defaults"
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Prior to clicking OK to start the installation you can see what how the disks are going to be partitioned. You could of added partitions to prepare for LiveUpgrade, but it is not going to be done by default. Not everybody uses LiveUpgrade or has the ability to (hardware limitations, limited disk space, etc.), so it is better that it is not the default.

ZFS is not available for boot disks (yet).

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RE[2]: Terrible Defaults
by jmansion on Wed 27th Jun 2007 12:12 in reply to "RE: Terrible Defaults"
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Sure, you can, but even that is painful.

I'd selected 'auto' because on FreeBSD and Linux it tends to make a reasonable crask at it, but the Solaris installer sets a very small size for / and puts the bulk of the free space in /export/home, not even carving out /var or /opt.

Also the initial display of discs is weird, correctly selecting the disk on which I'd created a Solaris primary partition for it to target, but showing the total disk size rather than the target partition size.
Which had me considering whether it was about to trash the whole lot. Only in the next screen did it list the actual partitions and sizes and give me some reassurance that my Ubuntu and FreeBSD partitions weren't about to be trashed.

Aside from an inability to put grub anywhere except the MBR (and I was wise to that - I bought a seperate disk for Vista) all the technology needed is available, it just needs reskinning. And why we have to have a huge bloated 'starting Java' business for very little usability value when a bit of murgaLua could probably do just as well would be a mystery if it wasn't Sun.


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