Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Jun 2007 20:35 UTC, submitted by Vanders
Syllable, AtheOS Kaj de Vos made two big announcements at SylCon 2007. The first was a new web browser, based on a port of WebKit. The second is Syllable Server, which will bring together the Syllable GUI with the Linux kernel to create a server operating system that compliments Syllable on the desktop. Syllable Server is not based on any existing Linux distribution and will look and feel as much like Syllable as possible.
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irbis
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2005-07-08

They clearly state in the story why they are not so motivated in abandoning Atheos core and choosing the Linux kernel instead:

"I demonstrated the Linux running on my laptop. It's a humble machine eight years of age, with a 333 MHz Pentium III processor and 192 MB of memory. Our Linux only has a command-line environment so far. On that old machine, it starts in just under thirty seconds, whereas Syllable boots to a full graphical desktop in 17 seconds. On my development desktop machine, these numbers are 20 and 8 seconds, respectively. This should give you an idea why we developed Syllable in the first place, and why we are continuing to develop our own desktop kernel. On that laptop, XUbuntu based on Edgy Edge, which should be quite fast, boots to the XFCE desktop in two minutes and ten seconds..."

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ubit Member since:
2006-09-08

Edgy Eft is still using the old SysV boot-up scripts. Once Ubuntu fully switchs over to upstart scripts (even in Gutsy they're still using SysV) there should be a nice improvement.

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renox Member since:
2005-07-06

And I still think that this is wrong: the initialisation time given here is the total initialisation time not the initialisation time of the Linux kernel.

Using the Linux kernel doesn't in any way force you to keep using the regular initialisation system of a typical Linux distribution.
Of course it's slow, usually, it is based on shell scripts, sequentially started even!

I'd say that replacing the Linux OS initialisation system is much more easy than recreating a kernel from scratch and rewriting hundreds of drivers..

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Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Using the Linux kernel doesn't in any way force you to keep using the regular initialisation system of a typical Linux distribution.


We plan to do this, eventually.

I'd say that replacing the Linux OS initialisation system is much more easy than recreating a kernel from scratch and rewriting hundreds of drivers..


Yet we have a desktop kernel that works and drivers which support a good range of desktop hardware, so it is clearly possible. Besides, there are other benefits to having our own kernel, as well as historic reasons, all of which have been covered before.

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