Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Jun 2007 21:39 UTC, submitted by jayson.knight
Windows Microsoft is simplifying the processes via which its PC-maker partners will be able to provide 'downgrade' rights from Windows Vista to Windows XP for their customers. Microsoft will implement the first of the policy changes for its Gold Certified (top-tier) OEM partners within the next couple of weeks. The company will streamline downgrade-rights policies and procedures for the broader channel somewhat later, said John Ball, general manager of Microsoft's US Systems Group.
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RE: Vista has been a disaster
by flanque on Fri 29th Jun 2007 03:08 UTC in reply to "Vista has been a disaster"
flanque
Member since:
2005-12-15

It sounds like your situation is rather typical of most SMEs.. time, money and resource poor, coupled with a demanding business requirement. I feel for you.

However, placing this directly on Microsoft or Vista isn't exactly fair now is it? I'm not sure how you downgrade other than having to buy preloaded Vista systems and then installing XP onto them.

Two points. Firstly, Windows XP is still widely available through various channels, typically the local computer stores. I just checked several of mine and Windows XP is available for purchase.

Secondly, you can in fact purchase white box computers from the same local computer stores without an OS, sometimes even from bigger vendors such as Dell. You may even be able to purchase the Ubuntu boxes from Dell and just install XP onto them.

Also, why couldn't you just use the XP license from the old boxes you're replacing?

As for application compatibility, this should have been done well before the machines were into production, even if only checking online compatibility lists. If it's not compatible, speak to the software vendor. Microsoft have changed the way Vista works for a number of reasons. I'm sure some of them are strategically beneficial to Microsoft's software, but also to improve security.

Drivers we can expect, though I don't agree it should be this way, to be buggy with Vista. This is a hardware vendor problem trying to rush things, not a Microsoft problem. I have buggy print drivers for my Minolta laser printer which cause screwing print jobs and false paper jams. Minolta's answer... "sorry, it is a known problem but we're not going to fix that for XP. it works fine on 2000." Gee, thanks.

Upgrades on other operating systems goof up due to version problems. Happens on Solaris and Linux regularly.

I think if you wanted to, you could have quite easily gone down the XP route, but perhaps you were time poor. You wouldn't be the first person. I know it sucks but perhaps some pre-work would have avoided the situation.

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stestagg Member since:
2006-06-03

Also, why couldn't you just use the XP license from the old boxes you're replacing?

OEM Licenses are tied to the machine. Doing this is illegal

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flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

Erm.. I'm pretty sure you're allowed to transfer the license once.

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