Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 30th Jun 2007 17:19 UTC, submitted by doro
Intel "Buried deep in a pile of slashdot comments, Matthew Dillon of DragonFly gives a detailed assessment of the Intel Core bugs. While a lot of news sites and bloggers were quick to dismiss the issue as inflated, Dillon's comments provide a much closer look at the actual issues."
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RE: Some inaccuracies..
by Janizary on Sat 30th Jun 2007 21:09 UTC in reply to "Some inaccuracies.."
Janizary
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2006-03-12

Right, because we should trust you, some nobody from nowhere that's done nothing, over two of the world's biggest hackers.

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RE[2]: Some inaccuracies..
by Lazarus on Sun 1st Jul 2007 00:02 in reply to "RE: Some inaccuracies.."
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2005-08-10

"Right, because we should trust you, some nobody from nowhere that's done nothing, over two of the world's biggest hackers."

I was thinking the same thing, tho I would have put it a little more tactfully ;^)

Edited 2007-07-01 00:03

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RE[3]: Some inaccuracies..
by Janizary on Sun 1st Jul 2007 00:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Some inaccuracies.."
Janizary Member since:
2006-03-12

Never found much use for tact, brute force and mobility have always been of more use to me. Hey, I calls 'em like I sees 'em, I'm a whale biologist.

Disclaimer: Not actually a whale biologist.

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RE[2]: Some inaccuracies..
by jelway on Sun 1st Jul 2007 00:20 in reply to "RE: Some inaccuracies.."
jelway Member since:
2006-05-14

Well...Linus says it's not a big deal either. I won't do you the courtesy of linking to it though since I'm a nobody as well.

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RE[3]: Some inaccuracies..
by Gone fishing on Sun 1st Jul 2007 05:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Some inaccuracies.."
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2006-02-22
RE[2]: Some inaccuracies..
by Brendan on Sun 1st Jul 2007 00:55 in reply to "RE: Some inaccuracies.."
Brendan Member since:
2005-11-16

Hi,

Right, because we should trust you, some nobody from nowhere that's done nothing, over two of the world's biggest hackers.

You don't have to trust me - Intel has been honest enough to make all the errata information (and all the information you'd need to understand it) freely available for anyone to download and look at.

Simply download the information, learn enough to understand the information, then come back and let me know if anything I posted has technical inaccuracies...


Cheers,

Brendan

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RE[2]: Some inaccuracies..
by StephenBeDoper on Sun 1st Jul 2007 04:57 in reply to "RE: Some inaccuracies.."
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2005-07-06

When you say "biggest," do you mean in terms of height, width, or girth?

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RE[3]: Some inaccuracies..
by Janizary on Sun 1st Jul 2007 05:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Some inaccuracies.."
Janizary Member since:
2006-03-12

As in largest contributions to the art. Ever heard of DICE? How about OpenSSH? Either of them rival Bill Joy, Eric Allman, or Marshall Kirk McKusick for the effect they've had.

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RE[2]: Some inaccuracies..
by NxStY on Sun 1st Jul 2007 09:49 in reply to "RE: Some inaccuracies.."
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2005-11-12

Right, because we should trust you, some nobody from nowhere that's done nothing, over two of the world's biggest hackers.

That's like saying we should always trust Microsoft because they´re the largest software company. Of course what Matthew Dillon and The De Radt says weights more than any comment on osnews but that doesn't mean we should just trust them blindly. Some of these bugs they point out as serious might be that but still not really a problem.

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RE[3]: Some inaccuracies..
by Cloudy on Tue 3rd Jul 2007 02:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Some inaccuracies.."
Cloudy Member since:
2006-02-15

Of course what Matthew Dillon and The De Radt says weights more than any comment on osnews

They should not. The arguments should weigh entirely on their merits, independent of who made them.

Never confuse notoriety with knowledge, nor expertise in one aspect of computing with expertise in another.

Neither Theo nor Matt have much direct experience in bringing up OSes on processors, and so neither are more qualified judges of hardware errata than anyone here is likely to be.

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RE[2]: Some inaccuracies..
by Cloudy on Tue 3rd Jul 2007 02:39 in reply to "RE: Some inaccuracies.."
Cloudy Member since:
2006-02-15

Right, because we should trust you, some nobody from nowhere that's done nothing, over two of the world's biggest hackers.

You should not trust or distrust anyone because of who they are, when they are making an argument. You should evaluate the argument and judge it on its own merits.

Matt has a long history of overreacting, as does Theo. Neither of them make a case that the errata here are any worse than in any other widely used processor (nor can they, as they are not, but don't take my word for it.)

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