Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 1st Jul 2007 15:21 UTC
Editorial Sometimes, Apple's (or any other software maker's) complete lack of respect for usability never ceases to amaze me. Take today for example. Apart from the close, minimise, and "maximise" widgets Apple places on window decors, there is also a fourth widget programmers on the Apple platform can use. This widget resembles a sort of dash, and is placed on the top right corner of the window decor. This widget is used in many applications, both from Apple as well as from various third parties. It has one function: toggle the visibility of the window's toolbar.
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Hardly a good example
by SlackerJack on Sun 1st Jul 2007 15:57 UTC
SlackerJack
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2005-11-12

Colloquy is not a app that comes with OS X so it's not the same, it's like comparing a gnome app with a GTK one(GTK apps dont have to follow the HIG guides). The fact that it serves a different function on the finder changing it's appearance is not a issue to me.

Seems strange to me that you would just hide the toolbar on the filemanger, but with Colloquy your hiding stuff you dont need.

Edited 2007-07-01 15:59

RE: Hardly a good example
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 1st Jul 2007 16:09 in reply to "Hardly a good example"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Colloquy is not a app that comes with OS X so it's not the same, it's like comparing a gnome app with a GTK one(GTK apps dont have to follow the HIG guides).

I could have used an Apple application as well, such as Mail.app. Or Automator. Or Fontbook. Or whatever. They all use the toggle-toolbar like it's supposed to.

Seems strange to me that you would just hide the toolbar on the filemanger, but with Colloquy your hiding stuff you dont need.

What are you talking about? I have the toolbar hidden on Colloquy by default (see the before/after shots).

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RE[2]: Hardly a good example
by SlackerJack on Sun 1st Jul 2007 16:29 in reply to "RE: Hardly a good example"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

What I'm saying is why shouldn't the filemanager have a different use for that, to me the filemanager servers a different function to all other applications anyway.

It seems logical to me that spatial mode would be switched by the forth widget on the right hand side. Having two methods one to switch spatial and one to hide the toolbar seem abit off to me just for the finder.

Why can't the finder have a different function, applications dont have a spatial mode and if they did where would the button be!

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RE: Hardly a good example
by Chicken Blood on Sun 1st Jul 2007 16:21 in reply to "Hardly a good example"
Chicken Blood Member since:
2005-12-21

Colloquy is not a app that comes with OS X so it's not the same, it's like comparing a gnome app with a GTK one(GTK apps dont have to follow the HIG guides). The fact that it serves a different function on the finder changing it's appearance is not a issue to me.

You missed the point. It's a perfectly good example because it behaves like all other Apple apps that use the pill button. Thom could have chosen any other Apple app as an example and it would behave as Colloquy does.

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