Elive, the distribution dedicated to E16 and E17, has reached the magical 1.0 barrier. "This version is ready for the end-users and not just hard core testers. It is a more intuitive easy to use and more efficient system. It has better integration of the file-manager and the mime-types, a nice kernel especially for multimedia and big processes loads, a light weight foot print, much better compatibility with your (possible) Windows system/software, more hardware supported, better graphical recognition, and many more things that you can find in the complete changelog."
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Member since:2005-10-12
Understand, but a modest donation is all that's needed. They are a small bunch of people, its one of the most original and creative distro projects there is. I usually just download live trials, but this one, they deserve something for reaching 1.0. If ever people deserved some support and recognition, its them. Mostly because of creativity!
Not connected with them in any way, don't even know them, just greatly admire what they've done.
Member since:2005-07-13
They should offer a free liveCD only, and ask for donation for another liveCD one with an installer.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I'm not shocked. I'll just wait until the slow servers are up again, try it out, and if I like it enough to install it to my HD, I'll give them something. Giving that it's debian, I don't see why I wouldn't like it, it's my fav distro.
Member since:2006-09-19
Yes, I agree.
A simply "Donate" button with a one or two-liner would be more than enough to get those who want to donate.
But instead the download page feels like a sleazy used car salesman.
After reading that page I decided I don't want to have anything to do with elive.
Funny, I put 0 into the donation box and it still opened a paypal payment page.
Secondly, e17 is really taking too long to reach stable status.
If they don't have enough people then that's understandable but if they're like Mplayer, having eternal beta status then that's bad for attracting users.
Most serious users will not use a beta package, especially on production machines so it's important to have a stable release.
And it's important to have a stable release at least once a year.
If it's longer between releases then it makes people nervous as to the status of the project.
Is the project dead, is it reliable, is it going to be around in 6 months when an update is needed? Wil it provide security updates?
Member since:2007-06-27
I'm not so sure about the 'eternal beta' or any of that: Given that they're building all of their toolkits (almost) from the ground up (and doing quite a good job of it too, I must admit I'm jealous of some of the ideas), three years isn't a very long time. And I'm not sure how something can be in beta, and have people complain about a stable release, when there hasn't even been an official release yet.
I want to see a stable E17 as much as the next person, but I can also appreciate withholding until it's done - especially since desktop icons were only recently added. They'll get there in time, and I suspect when they do, they'll make stable releases as often as they do of E16.
Edited 2007-07-07 01:00
Member since:2005-08-03
I agree shapeshifter, begging for donations won't ever pay the bills for them, purely because people in general are bombarded daily with people asking money for things, begging will only keep them an underground geek project.
I think the PC-BSD and Ubuntu models of companies backing up the distros financially would work better than a few hundred dollars from a few geeks IMHO.
Mod me down if you will; the Elive forums look like an after thought compared to PC-BSD and Ubuntu, this is only constructive criticism if they want to hit the mainstream users and if they want a bigger ground swell of user rapport.
Member since:2005-08-18
"I always get uncomfortable when I am asked to give money to try out a live CD..."
I always get uncomfortable when people expect others to give them everything for free. High speed bandwidth costs money, creating elive eats into their unpaid, free time.
Just live with the slow downloads, donate or stop whining.
Member since:
2005-07-13
- If you don't care about the future of Elive, and you really think its possible to live off nothing, or you just can't possibly make a minor donation, then you can download Elive from a slow server.
Sorry the slow server is down for upgrades, but I will be back up soon
I always get uncomfortable when I am asked to give money to try out a live CD...