The article 'Understanding the Common User' points that "everything should be as simple as it is... Or even simpler" and warns that converting a common user to Linux without giving him enough protection leads to a imminent failure. A rebuttal, 'Get Real or How Not To Convert Your Grandma to Linux' stresses that dumbing down is not the key to success, understanding is.
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Member since:2005-07-06
The problem is that they're shipping products with known bugs - not just minor, but *BIG* bugs. Take Ubuntu, for example, which shipped a broken implementation (via their CODEC buddby) which corrupts files encoded by FAAC when applying tags to files.
Sure, if it is a *huge* bug, then sure, but there are a small number of bugs which really destroys a first time users experience. As they say, its the small things.
Its a Ricoh card reader which is part of the laptop.
Mine is a HP M307; if I put in my SD Card, it doesn't work, pull it out, and it works ok; this problem doesn't appear on Windows Vista - the SD Card + built in 16MB appear as one 'storage pool'.
I'm not trolling - stop using terms which you know jack-squat about; you're the same sort of person who screams 'FUD! FUD! TEH FUD!" without having a damn clue about its origin let alone its definition.
The issue is, if you want people to use your operating system of choice (assuming you want that - I don't know. I assume since you replied this forum, you want to 'convert' people) then you need to address the deficiencies; To simply ignore those deficiences, you're saying that its 'all those people' who have the problem, rather than accepting problems ned resolving.
Member since:2005-07-07
ts a Ricoh card reader which is part of the laptop.
Did you try `modprobe tifm_sd`?
Mine is a HP M307; if I put in my SD Card, it doesn't work, pull it out, and it works ok; this problem doesn't appear on Windows Vista - the SD Card + built in 16MB appear as one 'storage pool'.
That is pretty odd considering that model supports both PTP and USB storage on Linux.
I'm not trolling - stop using terms which you know jack-squat about; you're the same sort of person who screams 'FUD! FUD! TEH FUD!" without having a damn clue about its origin let alone its definition.
From Wikipedia:
A troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding.
Your comments:
...why should I (or anyone) give up Windows, and all the compatibility and massive selection of off the shelf applications just to get the 'feel good' factor of sticking it to the man - I sure a heck don't orientate my life around computers to the point that I see every choice made as some sort of struggle between good and evil in the IT industry that some people here see it as.
You're the only one in this discussion talking about good and evil in terms of software. No one else is attempting to turn this discussion into a moral issue. I would call that inflammatory not to mention:
stop using terms which you know jack-squat about; you're the same sort of person who screams 'FUD! FUD! TEH FUD!" without having a damn clue about its origin let alone its definition.
You do spread FUD. You make your arguments based on what you perceive is some kind of religious war while you either fail to notice, or just flat ignore the many people on this site who use Linux and other free operating systems for reasons other than religion. You do this to discredit Linux. That seems pretty clear cut to me.
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2005-07-07
More applications, better hardware support, and a distribution which actually *TESTS* and *FIXES* bugs when they're found by beta testers rather than pushing them 'upstream' - basically fobbing the responsibility off onto someone else.
Bugs are pushed upstream for a good reason, so that everyone can have the fix not just users of one distro. Redhat used to do things like that and people hated them for that.
my card reader isn't supported
What kind of card reader do you have that isn't supported? The USB mass storage driver takes care of that for me.
my HP digital camera isn't supported (either PTP or USB Storage)
That's odd because again the USB mass storage driver handles cameras that act as USB storage devices and PTP is supported under Linux. I have used both to transfer pics to my computer with F-Spot.
I'm sorry, but why should I (or anyone) give up Windows, and all the compatibility and massive selection of off the shelf applications just to get the 'feel good' factor of sticking it to the man - I sure a heck don't orientate my life around computers to the point that I see every choice made as some sort of struggle between good and evil in the IT industry that some people here see it as.
That's completely fine. Do what you want but quit trolling. Not everyone chooses Linux in some good vs evil struggle. Some just don't like Windows, or prefer a Unix-like environment, or prefer choice and open standards.
Edited 2007-07-06 14:28