Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jul 2007 11:02 UTC, submitted by alcibiades
Linux Elive, the distribution dedicated to E16 and E17, has reached the magical 1.0 barrier. "This version is ready for the end-users and not just hard core testers. It is a more intuitive easy to use and more efficient system. It has better integration of the file-manager and the mime-types, a nice kernel especially for multimedia and big processes loads, a light weight foot print, much better compatibility with your (possible) Windows system/software, more hardware supported, better graphical recognition, and many more things that you can find in the complete changelog."
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bremac
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2007-06-27

I'm not so sure about the 'eternal beta' or any of that: Given that they're building all of their toolkits (almost) from the ground up (and doing quite a good job of it too, I must admit I'm jealous of some of the ideas), three years isn't a very long time. And I'm not sure how something can be in beta, and have people complain about a stable release, when there hasn't even been an official release yet.
I want to see a stable E17 as much as the next person, but I can also appreciate withholding until it's done - especially since desktop icons were only recently added. They'll get there in time, and I suspect when they do, they'll make stable releases as often as they do of E16.

Edited 2007-07-07 01:00

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shapeshifter Member since:
2006-09-19

I'm not so sure about the 'eternal beta' or any of that: Given that they're building all of their toolkits (almost) from the ground up (and doing quite a good job of it too, I must admit I'm jealous of some of the ideas), three years isn't a very long time. And I'm not sure how something can be in beta, and have people complain about a stable release, when there hasn't even been an official release yet.
I want to see a stable E17 as much as the next person, but I can also appreciate withholding until it's done - especially since desktop icons were only recently added. They'll get there in time, and I suspect when they do, they'll make stable releases as often as they do of E16.


Well, correct me if I'm wrong. But was there any stable releases between 2003 and 2006?
Seams to me that e16 was abandoned for about 3 years and then couple updates done on it this year.
And e17 is now in devel for what, over 2 years?
What are people supposed to use in meantime?
You can't stop development, start a new development, and release nothing for 3 years.
And it's not a whole OS, just a desktop so devel should not take that long for at least first stable release.
Well, it doesn't matter, people have to use something meantime, so most moved to KDE, Gnome etc.
E17 overdeveloped itself into irrelevance since it take s a lot to get people and companies to change their destop environment they're used to.

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bremac Member since:
2007-06-27

0.16.7.2 - 2004-12-13 23:36
0.16.8 - 2006-02-08 12:06

Actually, it was only a little over a year and two months (according to the releases on SF.net), not quite three years. Even in the meantime, there *was* work to move from 16.7 to 16.8, so I wouldn't say that "development stopped".

I won't bother arguing with the rest, since I suppose it's a matter of personal preference whether you prefer buggy software (and baked-in hacks to ship before a release is truly ready) or a long development cycle. The long development cycle has certainly worked for Code::Blocks - some people I've encountered swear by it, despite the fact that only nightly builds have been available since the plans to make RC3 were scrapped.

Edited 2007-07-07 02:47

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