Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jul 2007 10:56 UTC, submitted by michuk
The article 'Understanding the Common User' points that "everything should be as simple as it is... Or even simpler" and warns that converting a common user to Linux without giving him enough protection leads to a imminent failure. A rebuttal, 'Get Real or How Not To Convert Your Grandma to Linux' stresses that dumbing down is not the key to success, understanding is.
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@kaiwai "I don't want Linux" you lost all credibility with that.
You may not, but given the intensity for abuse by people here, one would assume that they wanted me to move - to 'see the light' - akin to the verbal abuse Christian fundamentalists give gays and lesbians in a hope of changing them.
Your heavily off-topic, a topic that is difficult, and I have *no* real answer to thats why I respond to what I see as lies spread by Vista users.
You are right, there are lies - hence the reason I said in my first post that if I was running Windows XP, I probably wouldn't go out and upgrade to Windows Vista using a retail package. I'm happy to run Windows Vista, because it came with my machine, if all I had was Windows XP, then I'd be still happy.
Hence the reason I've maintained that there currentlyisn't enough incentives for people to upgrade to Windows Vista - until SP1 is released, hardware support improves (quality and quantity) and softare that takes advantage of Windows technologies - its going to be a long road ahead for Microsoft.
Btw, this isn't off topic - it all relates back to advocacy, which is what the whole article is about. Things don't occur in a vacuum.
In seriousness if you have a problem, in a *community* based distribution, as opposed to support you have *paid* for, which is available from Ubuntu as well btw. I expect to see forum posts; bug reports from you before you given any credibility.
I am happy to pay for distributions - I have bought in the past, SLED 10, Red Hat Enterprise, Caldera Linux, etc. So yes, I have 'paid by dues' - its time that these vendors started usign those 'dues' to support my hardware.
Sony, for example, is more than happy to licence ATRAC and MiniDisc specifications (I've contacted them in the past in regards to getting access) - its vcendors who refuse to make those contacts.
The reason why you accused when something doesn't work right of making it up is because everything pretty much works on GNU. Is it perfect; *NO* are there bugs; regressions; unsupported hardware absolutely. Until quite recently it had glaring holes in wi-fi and graphics card support, and the solutions currently are far from perfect and for everyone, and this situation will not change any time soon, but software can never be perfect, but it should evolve.
I'm not saying that there aren't improvements; what I am saying is that to bash Windows without acknowleding its strengths is ignorance at best.
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@kaiwai "I don't want Linux" you lost all credibility with that.
Your heavily off-topic, a topic that is difficult, and I have *no* real answer to thats why I respond to what I see as lies spread by Vista users.
In seriousness if you have a problem, in a *community* based distribution, as opposed to support you have *paid* for, which is available from Ubuntu as well btw. I expect to see forum posts; bug reports from you before you given any credibility.
The reason why you accused when something doesn't work right of "making it up" is because everything pretty much works on GNU. Is it perfect; *NO* are there bugs; regressions; unsupported hardware...absolutely. Until quite recently it had glaring holes in wi-fi and graphics card support, and the solutions currently are far from perfect or for everyone, and this situation will not change any time soon, but software can never be perfect, but GNU is not static unlike Vista 2006 it continues to evolve.
I actually buy my hardware to fit my OS regardless of platform. The main difference between Hardware that works on GNU as opposed to a Microsoft platform is the level of trust is greater. Hardware that worked well under XP will not always work under 2006 Vista, or at all and definitely not as well. We can see that Microsoft with DirectX 10 cards has made expensive graphics cards useless for gamers while OpenGL 2.0 and OpenGL 3.0 are out this year, yet we see 5 year old games DirectX 10 only. Drivers on the Microsoft platform are write once walk away, which only works as long as the platform stays static as we have seen with Vista it doesn't, but it also means that hardware becomes *obsolete* as standards change, look at the standards in the wi-fi world now, people suggest buying *like with like* becuase its so bad on the Microsoft platform.
but the reality is hardware support is excellent under Linux, and continues to improve. In fact unlike static platforms like that of 2006 Vista you hardware improves all the time; Linux 2.6.22 is out this week and the chances are not only will your hardware still work. It will work better.
Edited 2007-07-07 02:09