Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jul 2007 11:05 UTC, submitted by WillM
Microsoft Microsoft cleared the air July 5 on its obligations to GNU General Public License Version 3 support, declaring it will not provide support or updates for GPLv3 under the deal it penned in November with Novell to administer certificates for the Linux distribution. Microsoft also said July 5 that its agreement with Novell, as well as those with Linux rivals Xandros and Linspire, were unaffected by the release June 29 of GPLv3 by the Free Software Foundation.
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RE[2]: Clueless...
by elsewhere on Sat 7th Jul 2007 02:55 UTC in reply to "RE: Clueless..."
elsewhere
Member since:
2005-07-13

It stunning how clueless some people are about what the GPL v3 license actually says.

The GPL v3 is no longer "invoked" by distribution of Linux, it is invoked by the act of "conveying" Linux.


Er, no. GPL v3 is invoked by the conveying of GPL v3 licensed works, of which linux is NOT.

Look i up. What Microsoft is doing falls under the definition in the GPL v3 of "conveying" Linux to people.


I did look it up, couldn't find anything credible beyond some random babbling on Groklaw and a bunch of anti-MS/Novell sites. How exactly are you convinced this is the case? And more to the point, can you provide references that correlate to actual copyright law? No, I suspect not.

Ergo, GPL3 is directly related to Microsft's activities with respect to the coupons.


Ergo implies a rational conclusion to a logical argument, so it's a bit inappropriate to use that particular word here.

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RE[3]: Clueless...
by lemur2 on Sat 7th Jul 2007 06:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Clueless..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

GPL v3 is invoked by the conveying of GPL v3 licensed works, of which linux is NOT.


You score a minor point there. Linux (the kernel) itself is not GPL v3, but GNU certainly is. It is GNU/Linux which Microsoft are propagating coupons for.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html

0. Definitions.

...

To “convey” a work means any kind of propagation that enables other parties to make or receive copies.


Does Microsoft propagate coupons "that enables other parties to ... receive copies (of GPL v3 licensed code)"? Why yes, Microsoft does do exactly that.

I did look it up, couldn't find anything credible beyond some random babbling on Groklaw


You didn't look very hard. It is in the plain text of the first few paragraphs of the license itself, which in turn is posted very prominently on the site of the authors of the license.

Ergo implies a rational conclusion to a logical argument, so it's a bit inappropriate to use that particular word here.


Au contraire, ergo is the exact word appropriate for the place where I used it.

Edited 2007-07-07 06:28

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RE[4]: Clueless...
by Marcellus on Sat 7th Jul 2007 08:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Clueless..."
Marcellus Member since:
2005-08-26

To “convey” a work means any kind of propagation that enables other parties to make or receive copies.

Person A gives person B the FTP address and path to a GPLv3 covered work on a public FTP site run by C.
Does A have to agree to GPLv3 to do that? No.
Does A convey the work? Yes.
You see any problem there?

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