Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 6th Jul 2007 19:50 UTC, submitted by juno_106
Opera Software "Back in January we added the ability to report usage of different features and preferences so we could learn more about how the browser is used in general. First we invited you, our weekly users to help us and in 9.2 we started asking one in 100 users if they want to participate. We would like to share some of our findings with you."
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RE: Fit-to-width by default
by Dave_K on Sat 7th Jul 2007 23:44 UTC in reply to "Fit-to-width by default"
Dave_K
Member since:
2005-11-16

I see why this isn't popular, but I always turn it on. It's useful for keeping my ADD in check; a flood of windows in my taskbar annoys me, but I won't notice a flood of tabs in my browser until I got so many of them open it'd be faster to just close all of them. Also, this option makes it easier to bring up the transfers window when I'm downloading something and have Opera minimized.


One of the main things I like about Opera is that I can use it without really worrying about the number of pages I open. I'll often flood Opera with multiple pages, using the Links panel to open several dozen interesting links in the background, despite already having a stack of open pages that I'm planning to look through.

Apart from Opera's speed and stability advantage, the main reason that Opera can cope with that kind of punishment, is that Opera uses full MDI, rather than just tabs. Personally I turn off the Tab Bar completely, and just use the Windows panel and MDI window management to keep track of all the open pages. That way Opera remains usable even with over 100 pages open in a single window. A row of tabs become worthless with a fraction of that number of pages.

Opera's MDI adds so much more flexibility, for example being able to display popup windows at their intended size without requiring a separate browser window. Or the ability to view a couple of sites side by side in one window.

It also allows a form of spatial organisation; if I want to put a couple of pages to one side for a moment I just move them partially off screen, if I'm not planning on looking at them for a while I'll minimise them away, while the page I'm working on can be resized to fill the window.

SDI offers some of the same window management advantages, but of course it quickly clutters the taskbar, uses more screen space, and in my experience SDI uses more system resources. It also prevents certain Opera features from functioning, such as the ability to restore recently closed pages.

Both SDI and basic tabbed browsing just feel crippled in comparison. It's a shame that the browser usage statistics don't show whether anyone else uses Opera the same way. I suspect I'm in a very small minority; it's nice that there's a browser that caters for my needs anyway.

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RE[2]: Fit-to-width by default
by cerbie on Mon 9th Jul 2007 22:30 in reply to "RE: Fit-to-width by default"
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

"That way Opera remains usable even with over 100 pages open in a single window. A row of tabs become worthless with a fraction of that number of pages."

You know Opera has plenty of options, right? ;) Last time I fired up Opera, it restored over 250 tabs, and I use only the tab bar. Just turn off text labels, keep track of the icons, and it works great!

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Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

You know Opera has plenty of options, right? ;) Last time I fired up Opera, it restored over 250 tabs, and I use only the tab bar. Just turn off text labels, keep track of the icons, and it works great!


The 'keep track of the icons' bit is the problem. A lot of sites, blogs for example, don't have unique icons. I often have multiple pages open from a particular site; again they would all have a single icon, with nothing to identify the individual pages. Then there are all the sites that I don't visit often enough to be able to recognise their icon at a glance.

Having to move the mouse over multiple tabs to find a particular page is painfully slow and frustrating. To me tabs without titles are practically worthless.

With the Windows panel in the sidebar I can see the pages listed with their titles displayed. Another advantage is that it doesn't take up extra screen space like the Tab Bar, very nice on a laptop with a small screen. Overall it seems like a much better option for anyone who opens many pages.

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