Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Jul 2007 18:06 UTC, submitted by Flatline
Features, Office Under the name Sun ODF Plug-in for Microsoft Office, Sun has released its import/export filter for the OpenDocument format, which the ISO has recognized as a standard, for versions 2000, XP, and 2003 of Microsoft's Office suite; the plug-in can be downloaded via our software repository. The extension allows users of MS Office to read and create text documents, spreadsheets, and presentations in the free OpenOffice suite and its commercial version called StarOffice.
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fake hope
by bedo on Tue 10th Jul 2007 19:47 UTC
bedo
Member since:
2006-01-03

I still have to try the plugin. but from my prior experience in import/export between OOO and MS office, I believe that the plugin gives a fake hope. because it won't work 100% time, and usually the most important documents in your archive won't convert using the plugin. deeming the plugin useless piece of software.

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RE: fake hope
by archiesteel on Tue 10th Jul 2007 19:50 in reply to "fake hope"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

You should try it before talking; supposedly, it works quite well.

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RE: fake hope
by WarpKat on Tue 10th Jul 2007 21:24 in reply to "fake hope"
WarpKat Member since:
2006-02-06

A few things:

1. How does it give fake hope? Is it because Sun has released it for the purposes of people using ODF or do you think there is some nefarious cause here?

2. You can't expect a conversion to work 100% of the time - especially one of this significant magnitude. Nobody knows 100% of the internals of MS Office formats nor does anyone WANT to know - the specs are thick just for one of the file formats. It's not like an 'image' where you can transcode one to the other without loss.

3. Why would you deem it useless? What exactly defines an 'important document' to you isn't exactly important to someone else. To me, a document with names, numbers and perhaps passwords is more important than a spreadsheet I know I can recreate.

Fake hope? No.

100% solution? Of course not.

A good college try that has a fair chance of success?

Absolutely.

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RE: fake hope
by g2devi on Tue 10th Jul 2007 22:39 in reply to "fake hope"
g2devi Member since:
2005-07-09

Not necessarily. Conversion is often a lossy process. If you convert AAC to MP3, your sound quality will degrade, but if you start with the original WAV file, you can export to to AAC and MP3 with equal quality. More specifically, anyone who saves a word document and opens it up on a different computer with a different printer, fonts, and other environment knows that it doesn't always look 100% the same. The reason is that Word doesn't save its complete environment in the DOC file and thus has to recreated something "close enough" in your new computer. Since the converter doesn't have access to this missing information, it has to make guesses. The ODF exporter, however, wouldn't have to and so it should be more accurate.

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RE[2]: fake hope
by bedo on Wed 11th Jul 2007 02:18 in reply to "RE: fake hope"
bedo Member since:
2006-01-03

I really feel sorry for you guys for not getting my point.

I wish this plugin is THE SOLUTION. but it does not work with the word documents I deal with on daily basis, and I'm pretty sure it won't work for that Canadian library the guy mentioned earlier.

if you try it for yourself, you'll notice that it will not work on most business word documents.

In real business environment, you don't accept half-working solutions. You'll only use a solid and reliable solution. Which not the case in this plugin.


The best solution to convert old documents is to do it manually, using cut and past methods.


it's pathetic how some readers rate my comment negatively just because they don't agree with my point. It just shows how pathetic those readers are. Probably their high point of the day is the satisfaction of rating someone's comment negatively...

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