Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jul 2007 08:14 UTC
Mac OS X "The current beta build of Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, released to developers at WWDC ‚'07, is not as polished as what people have come to expect of Apple's design team - users are still left with at best several disagreeable changes, and at worst a hideous hodgepodge of HIG contradictions. I have broken down 5 onscreen blunders that detract from the user experience and make Leopard the ugliest and most uncharacteristically 'Apple' OS to date." Thanks to MacWereld for pointing this article out.
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RE[5]: Dock and shadow
by sappyvcv on Wed 11th Jul 2007 13:20 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Dock and shadow"
sappyvcv
Member since:
2005-07-06

If Microsoft really cared about the experience of regular users, we wouldn't have ended up with IE6.

Give me a break. When it came out, IE6 was a good product with relatively good standards support [at the time]. It was their lack of updates that made IE6 what it is. An outdated browser.

For me, using OSX for the first time (not in a store that is), I wasn't terribly impressed. It wasn't a bad experience, but not great.

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RE[6]: Dock and shadow
by Headrush on Wed 11th Jul 2007 14:27 in reply to "RE[5]: Dock and shadow"
Headrush Member since:
2006-01-03

Give me a break.

I could care less whether anyone uses Windows or OS X, but lets be honest and remember we are talking about GUI not features. (And IE was never relatively good with web standards, you just never noticed it because sites worked to IE flaws.)

Obviously GUI quality can be highly subjective, but still having said that IE6 was one of worst visually appealing applications in its default setup. Everything from button size to icon bitmaps to color was bad and made it feel heavy and bloated. (Regardless of performance, we are talking GUI!)

Go ahead and load them all, Firefox, IE6, Opera, Konqueror, and Safari and then say that isn't true.

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RE[7]: Dock and shadow
by sappyvcv on Wed 11th Jul 2007 14:39 in reply to "RE[6]: Dock and shadow"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

(And IE was never relatively good with web standards, you just never noticed it because sites worked to IE flaws.)

No, in 2001 it had relatively good standards.

Also, at the time, the UI wasn't really bad either. Of course you feel different, but that's subjective. It's also not fair to compare a UI from 2001 to UIs from 2006-2007.

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RE[6]: Dock and shadow
by Dave_K on Wed 11th Jul 2007 16:45 in reply to "RE[5]: Dock and shadow"
Dave_K Member since:
2005-11-16

Give me a break. When it came out, IE6 was a good product with relatively good standards support [at the time]. It was their lack of updates that made IE6 what it is. An outdated browser.


This is pretty subjective. Personally I thought IE6 was an extremely poor browser when I first used it. Compared with other browsers like Opera I found it slow and bloated, with a poor user interface and limited features. The fact that its development was neglected just added to its problems.

The popularity of IE6 despite its many flaws and lack of development really shows the huge advantage of bundling an application with the OS.

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RE[7]: Dock and shadow
by sappyvcv on Wed 11th Jul 2007 17:01 in reply to "RE[6]: Dock and shadow"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

I've been using Opera since 3.6. At the time 5.0 was out and it simply wasn't very good. It was fast, but some of it's CSS and JS support was very poor. IE was slower, but it had better overall support for the web at the time. Mozilla didn't even have a 1.0 released for their browser (Navigator?) at the time.

Limited features, yeah. But not a big concern at the time. The web was still relatively young and simple as far as pages went.

Poor user interface -- eh. Even if it's subjective, the internet was very simple. Not sure how it could be considered poor.

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