Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 14th Jul 2007 20:06 UTC, submitted by AdamW
KDE "PC users have volumes of information saved on their computers, most of it disconnected and disparate save for a basic directory system. The answer to connecting all the information into a local semantic Web of information is closer than you might think. Thanks to the open source NEPOMUK (Networked Environment for Personalized, Ontology-based Management of Unified Knowledge) effort, the Semantic Desktop isn't a dream; it's an emerging reality and will be here with the upcoming release of KDE 4 for the Linux desktop."
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RE[5]: I have been waiting...
by WereCatf on Sun 15th Jul 2007 15:58 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: I have been waiting..."
WereCatf
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2006-02-15

I just started thinking about something..If you f.ex. save a file from an email, and the saved file automatically acquires metadata such as the sender's email address, couldn't this be considered potentially a threat if there's several users on the same computer? If the file's metadata is readable by other users and they have read-access to even some of your files, they could learn email addresses of the people you stay in contact with etc. In that case it'd help if the metadata was accessible only by the owner of the file, but what if sooner or later f.ex. system files are populated with metadata? The only way I can think of how to fix that would be to have two kinds of metadata: private and public.

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RE[6]: I have been waiting...
by aseigo on Sun 15th Jul 2007 16:22 in reply to "RE[5]: I have been waiting..."
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2005-07-06

metadata currently is private to the user. sharing/merging metadata will be a by permission thing only, and we're still a couple years away from that anyways.

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RE[6]: I have been waiting...
by anda_skoa on Sun 15th Jul 2007 16:49 in reply to "RE[5]: I have been waiting..."
anda_skoa Member since:
2005-07-07

If you f.ex. save a file from an email, and the saved file automatically acquires metadata such as the sender's email address, couldn't this be considered potentially a threat if there's several users on the same computer?


Aaron already answered this, but just a bit more detailed: the acquired relation data is stored in an relation database separate from the file. Thus the file itself remains "clean".

For some kind of data it might make sense to also store it in the file or in extended file system attributes. This is currently not implemented AFAIK and as Aaron pointed out, would be subject to policies.

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RE[7]: I have been waiting...
by WereCatf on Sun 15th Jul 2007 17:43 in reply to "RE[6]: I have been waiting..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15


For some kind of data it might make sense to also store it in the file or in extended file system attributes. This is currently not implemented AFAIK and as Aaron pointed out, would be subject to policies.


IMHO all such metadata information should be stored per-file, ie. in extended attributes cos then it could be shared by all users. And I don't really like the idea of a single database with all the metadata cos it could get corrupted, or if it got deleted one way or another you'd lose ALL metadata. But to have public and private metadata saved per-file would most likely require modifications to existing filesystems, or a completely new one. Hopefully this will happen, I'm sure a lot of people would find such a thing useful even if I can't imagine myself gaining much from that.

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