Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 15th Jul 2007 16:12 UTC, submitted by shykid
GNU, GPL, Open Source Open Source infighting over the GPLv3 just turned nastier - in a post on the Linux kernel mailing list, Linus Torvalds effectively called the authors of the GPLv3 'hypocritical morons'. InformationWeek has reported on the issue: "Linux creator Linus Torvalds said the authors of a new software license expected to be used by thousands of open source programmers are a bunch of hypocrites and likened them to religious fanatics - the latest sign of a growing schism in the open source community between business-minded developers like Torvalds and free software purists."
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RE[6]: Okay
by m_abs on Mon 16th Jul 2007 13:59 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Okay"
m_abs
Member since:
2005-07-06

[quote]I have given you an answer, but you do not understand. The reasons are practical, they would make system more interoperable with the rest of the industry. Business reasons, in fact.

They are, by no means, reasons to use GPL v3, quite the opposite.[/quote]
Okay, sorry Iīve misread and misunderstood your post,

If I understands you right (this time), youīre suggesting allowing closed source drivers in the kernel. I canīt imaging how that would work. How would that insure that hardware is still supported after the vendor end-of-supports the hardware? Which is one the reasons I like Linux, I have a lot of hardware no longer working under Windows but working perfectly under Linux years after the vendor ended support. I think that gives more freedom then closed source drivers.

But, if you think that kernel is purely Torvalds' hobby, then you are right, he should use the license he likes the most. I don't think so. I think that Torvalds is receiving fair amount of money for his work.

Itīs not his hobby, but itīs his project and the part of kernel he hold copyright on, he gets to choose the license.

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RE[7]: Okay
by trenchsol on Mon 16th Jul 2007 22:16 in reply to "RE[6]: Okay"
trenchsol Member since:
2006-12-07

Can't there be some kind of hook for dynamic loading of the drivers ? Something like old SYSV (UNIX System V) Streams interface. One could hook a chain of pseudo-devices to a physical device. I think that it still exists in Solaris.

That would solve the problem of proprietary and closed source drivers.

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RE[8]: Okay
by sbergman27 on Mon 16th Jul 2007 22:33 in reply to "RE[7]: Okay"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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That would solve the problem of proprietary and closed source drivers.
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That depends upon what you mean by "solving" the "problem".

NVidia has already "solved" it by including a GPL layer that loads into the kernel and implements an interface which the proprietary part can talk to.

Problem "solved".

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