Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 15th Jul 2007 22:17 UTC
Morphos "SceneCON is an annual meeting of underground computer artists who are members of the famous demo scene. With SceneCON, the organizers aim to follow the two decade old tradition of demo scene parties in Hungary. Yet, with a bit of a twist. This years party was held from the 16th until the 17th of June, 2007. Among its highlights was an extensive demonstration of bplan's EFIKA miniature mainboard running various flavours of Linux as well as a work-in-progress version of MorphOS 2.0. Luckily, the presentation was captured on video. The entire presentation has a total length of nearly an hour with MorphOS 2.0 being featured in the last 14 minutes of it."
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RE[2]: one hour video....
by vezhlys on Mon 16th Jul 2007 17:19 UTC in reply to "RE: one hour video...."
vezhlys
Member since:
2005-08-19

3D, video, games? It's hard to believe that such things can work on this computer and, probably, it is not intended to do that. 400MHz processor is just to slow and 128 MB of RAM is not enough for that in my opinion. Even on this presentation it is visible that linux loads quite a long time (especially SUSE with KDE). Morph OS looks great, but they didn't show any heavier programs running on it. OS is responsive, however, is it usable?

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RE[3]: one hour video....
by tonestone57 on Mon 16th Jul 2007 18:19 in reply to "RE[2]: one hour video...."
tonestone57 Member since:
2005-12-31

In regards to MorphOS on the Efika,
You're right that 3d might not work well on that system ( probably crawl ).

As for games, I wanted to see them play some 2d games which I'm sure it could handle.

For videos, I'm certain it can handle mpeg2, but I wonder if it could playback divx/xvid well & what processor usage. Can it play multiple mpeg movies simultaneously?

They didn't show how it handles multimedia, etc. Or try to stress out MorphOS to show what it could handle.

And the system specs are just too low - that only the real enthusiasts will end up buying it. If they want to get serious they need to up the specs to something more realistic as outlined in my previous post and create a good demo video to show off MorphOS on the Efika.

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RE[4]: one hour video....
by StephenBeDoper on Mon 16th Jul 2007 18:47 in reply to "RE[3]: one hour video...."
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

For videos, I'm certain it can handle mpeg2, but I wonder if it could playback divx/xvid well & what processor usage.


It shouldn't have a problem (assuming overlay support in the video drivers). I used BeOS on a P3 450 until about 2004, with VLC it had no problem with MPEG4 playback - used about 50-60% of the CPU, IIRC.

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RE[4]: one hour video....
by marafaka on Tue 17th Jul 2007 14:37 in reply to "RE[3]: one hour video...."
marafaka Member since:
2006-01-03

Efika is a PowerPC developement platform which can - due to it's price - be very well used as a home media center, home server, lab device, office desktop, musical instrument, thin client, robot controller, car computer, information kiosk, etc, etc. And it's cool and quiet!

Is there a jet engine in your father's lawn mower?

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RE[3]: one hour video....
by aliquis on Mon 16th Jul 2007 22:55 in reply to "RE[2]: one hour video...."
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2005-07-23

lol, you doubt 400MHz and 128MB ram is enough? How did you survived in the P2 days? Linux and X and KDE wastes way more resources/memory than Amiga apps, old Workbench took like 300kB of the 2MB memory in the A1200, of course MorphOS uses more but 128MB is plenty as long as you don't do heavy computing stuff of course.

It's not the best database server platform... But for AmigaOS-like desktop it's more than enough.

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RE[4]: one hour video....
by tonestone57 on Tue 17th Jul 2007 16:07 in reply to "RE[3]: one hour video...."
tonestone57 Member since:
2005-12-31

Yes, I agree. That if you mainly want to run MorphOS then the Efika is good enough but running Linux on it will be like pulling teeth. Which I can't imagine being fun.

And at the selling price of $168 Euro I can get a much more powerful mATX x86 system ( dual core with latest technology too ). It won't be as quiet, or have low power usage or be as cool or small as the Efika but it'll be able to run more OSes and do hard core computer crunching. 3d gaming, video conversions, etc.

I was impressed by MorphOS. This OS looks pretty well done and unfortunately I'll never get the chance to try it out. But the Efika system seems too low end. I'd guess that only real enthusiasts will be buying this.

Back in the Pentium2 days things were different & simplier. :-)

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RE[3]: one hour video....
by pczanik on Tue 17th Jul 2007 04:32 in reply to "RE[2]: one hour video...."
pczanik Member since:
2006-03-17

The openSUSE part was a bit messed up :-) I made a last minute change to configurations to also demo, that XGL also works nicely, even if a bit slowly on the machine. Of course, one should not make such a change in last minute, while it worked before the show, it failed ugly during the show. The law of Murphy was upon us...
Without XGL and GDM running, xfce starts and works quite fast on this machine, and with Opera, Gnumeric & AbiWord, most of today's desktop usage is covered with fast and easy to use applications.

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RE[4]: one hour video....
by tonestone57 on Tue 17th Jul 2007 16:26 in reply to "RE[3]: one hour video...."
tonestone57 Member since:
2005-12-31

"Without XGL and GDM running, xfce starts and works quite fast on this machine, and with Opera, Gnumeric & AbiWord, most of today's desktop usage is covered with fast and easy to use applications.

I can run Linux with KDE ( or Gnome ) on my x86 system & it'll run better. And how many Linux users run xfce? :-)

I can run Abiword, Firefox & Sum-IT on BeOS & it'll be pretty fast too. Though I've never used MorphOS myself; it does remind me of BeOS ( from a performance perspective ).

So, buying the Efika to use for Linux certainly is not a selling point. It is mainly intended for MorphOS and that Linux also *somewhat* works on the Efika is just an added benefit.

I own 4 x86 systems and even my oldest one has 256MB RAM ( 2 X P2 350mhz ) and the newer ones have 1GB. 128MB is good for MorphOS, but too little for Linux these days. ( CPU speed won't matter much unless you intend to run cpu intensive programs ).

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