Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Jul 2007 14:06 UTC
Sun Solaris, OpenSolaris "OpenSolaris is possibly Sun's most significant attempt to garner relevance in a market that increasingly demands the freedom and flexibility of open-source software. Although the availability of source code under an open license imbues the platform with considerable value, broader adoption is predicated on Sun's capacity to build a strong community. Project Indiana represents Sun's latest strategy for building mindshare and expanding the reach of OpenSolaris."
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This does not make sense for me.
by ZacharyM on Tue 17th Jul 2007 14:32 UTC
ZacharyM
Member since:
2007-05-28

In my opinion the whole point in installing Solaris was to get a real rock solid UNIX, and before it was harder to do for regular average everyday people without buying their very expensive SPARC hardware. Now that Solaris X86 support is improving dramatically we are able to get a real UNIX on our hardware, and now Sun wants to go and make another Ubuntu/Linux clone that we don't need.

Edited 2007-07-17 14:34

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kajaman Member since:
2006-01-06

Oh, crap. Another flamewar is on the way...

and now Sun wants to go and make another Ubuntu/Linux clone that we don't need.

You don't need, but e.g. I need, and many other people do. The thing is that they should do it the way both - current Solaris user and newcomers would feel comfortable, and what I just read about seems to suggest they are trying to do it exactly like that.

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Joe User Member since:
2005-06-29

What I don't understand is why SUN tried to struggle in a highly competitive market where all OS are free of charge. How do they expect to make money? Subscriptions? Nah....

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binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

What I don't understand is why SUN tried to struggle in a highly competitive market where all OS are free of charge. How do they expect to make money? Subscriptions? Nah....


How do you think RedHat makes their money?

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WiggetyWhack Member since:
2007-06-30

Have you ever had a Sun machine running Solaris go down? When you call support, you get actual Engineer that with step through decompiled assembly on your hardware if the need is stong enough.

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Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

And why shouldn't solaris copy succesful (and popular!) features of other distros? I would rather they did, thus allowing me a more comfortable enviornment to work in. How many new users would willingly cope with CDE? For solaris to stay relevant it must advance alongside the rest of the industry, not allow itself to become antiquated just so as not to 'copy' linux.

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flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

The CDE is perfectly fine.

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ZacharyM Member since:
2007-05-28

I can see what you guys mean, Nevada does seem like a good idea. I personally would like to see Nevada and another branch similar to Solaris releases of the past.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"it was harder to do for regular average everyday people"

What regular average everyday people needs to install a rock solid UNIX?

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deb2006 Member since:
2006-06-26

Wrong. It makes ample sense, because:
- no decent package management
- Userland is outdated and needs to be updated
- Configuration is really bad
- GUI is ok but not even with Linux
...

The package management alone would be worth this Indiana project.

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Robert Escue Member since:
2005-07-08

And what is wrong with the package commands that ship with Solaris?

The userland works fine for me, I can compile the software I need using only gcc and Sun's make (apache, OpenSSL, OpenSSH, BIND, Samba, etc.). If you need the GNU userland to build applications then complain to the people who write the software, not the people who build the OS.

What configuration is "really bad"? Specifics would be useful here.

And the GUI is a matter of personal preference, I like JDS on my Sun Ray.

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