Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Jul 2007 14:38 UTC, submitted by mikemuch
Windows "Way back in November 2006, when Windows Vista went from beta to RTM, Microsoft's Jim Allchin suggested that users might not need an antivirus program, thanks to the new OS's stronger security features. While the statement was subsequently clarified until it lost all its meaning, the question remains: Do Vista users really need an antivirus program running in the background at all times?"
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RE: Nice article
by _mikk on Tue 17th Jul 2007 20:11 UTC in reply to "Nice article"
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Yeah it would be nice, now wouldn't it?

Users actually paying attention...
I mean it sounds like a great idea to me, or more like utopia *sigh*

People will either turn the damn thing off, or click "OK" every time.

I mean, in XP, by default (right after you install) you get asked whether or not you want to execute something you've just downloaded. Doesn't stop anybody, or any virus...

Oh well....

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RE[2]: Nice article
by marafaka on Tue 17th Jul 2007 21:24 in reply to "RE: Nice article"
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How do you get along treating people like that? They did not buy their machines to run some woodo shiite but to fulfill a specific need. Do you think it's allright if salami crawls out of your fridge at night and eats your money just because you didn't buy and read the required 7 books about having a salami?

Every story has two sides and moronic developers / industry is the other site of this one.

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RE[3]: Nice article
by _mikk on Wed 18th Jul 2007 12:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Nice article"
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I agree, and "computer is no toaster, so if you want a toaster, buy yourself a toaster" is the other side of the equation.

Now, users should be educated, computers are not appliances, even though majority are trying to treat them as such.

I a todays world, this leads to DDoS attacks (or should I say "attack of the clones") and other nasty things.

So, relying solely on users for security is unfeasible today, as people continue to click "or download me and I will infect you" e-mail links, click on "OK" in UAC (it's very annoying, UAC that is) and do the rest of their day-to-day activities.

So, Firewall, antivirus, spam scanners, are all a must in a Windows world (some are a must everywhere)

Oh well...

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RE[2]: Nice article
by tspears on Wed 18th Jul 2007 13:31 in reply to "RE: Nice article"
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Users actually paying attention...
I mean it sounds like a great idea to me, or more like utopia

I see it as job security more than a burden ;-)

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RE[3]: Nice article
by hollovoid on Wed 18th Jul 2007 13:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Nice article"
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I admit, it is frustrating that the same people go to the same online poker/porn/download site and get the same junk like they dont remember what happened the last 8 times they did, but I sure do like the money, so go naive! Whats a little harder to explain is when they notice most of the lag in thier system comes from the software that they spent 90 dollars on that promised to free them of this worry *cough* NAV *cough*.

its amazing how fast a computer runs when you know enough about what your doing to finally rid yourself of resident scanners. Best bet is to disable the resident and just run the on access once or twice a week, or use the built in scheduler to make it happen when you know you wont be around. OR use linux and relax. but to be honest ive yet to see a virus on my windows machine in many many years, common sense and an interest in knowing what your system is up to goes a VERY long way.

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