Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Jul 2007 22:40 UTC, submitted by zaboing
Gnome During his opening speech at the GNOME Developers conference GUADEC Jono Bacon, community manager for the Ubuntu distribution, called for a common vision inside the project, an area in which the project as a whole is currently lacking. Only a few hours later Red Hat developers Havoc Pennington and Bryan Clark presented their own proposal for a reinvention of the Open Source desktop: The GNOME Online Desktop. My take: As I have been saying for a long time, GNOME needs a vision (and leaders) for the future. I'm glad that people are finally stepping up.
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RE: Am I the only one?
by rainman on Wed 18th Jul 2007 23:46 UTC in reply to "Am I the only one?"
rainman
Member since:
2007-05-22

Am I the only one who shudders at the thought of having all my information online at all times?


As a 56k dial-up user, I can assure you that you are not the only one. Transferring anything over 56k is a pain, having to transfer _everything_ over it would be prohibitive.

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RE[2]: Am I the only one?
by kaiwai on Thu 19th Jul 2007 01:53 in reply to "RE: Am I the only one?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

As a 56k dial-up user, I can assure you that you are not the only one. Transferring anything over 56k is a pain, having to transfer _everything_ over it would be prohibitive.


That's only half the story; in countries such as Australia and New Zealand, flat rate plans are prohibitively expensive and the connections are castrated at peak times. The only alternative are the cheaper but metered plans which give a certain number of megabytes/gigabytes downloads per month.

Like I said in a chatroom last night, the GNOME development is far too US or more correct, western focused/centric rather than realising that not all countries have the same level of infrastructure and it would be prohibitive for many users regarding many of these pie-in-the-sky ideas.

It goes further, for example, take Apple for example, in their dash board, its all very nice for those who live in the US, but how about those who live outside who want financial data from their own stock exchange - for example, there isn't that ability.

This reminds me very much of Microsofts notion "create software and the hardware will eventually come up to meeting the requirements" - which completely ignores that those in developing (and even non-developing nations), that a NZ$1500 is expensive and unreasonable to expect an end user to invest that much money into a computer merely for surfing the internet and typing up things.

The 'network desktop' is doing the same thing, but replace hardware with bandwidth.

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RE[3]: Am I the only one?
by OStourist on Thu 19th Jul 2007 02:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Am I the only one?"
OStourist Member since:
2007-06-19

Actually I don't even think it makes sense in the US yet.
Many areas still are on 56K modem and many /. articles
cry foul over the situation in the USA vs say South Korea or Japan.
But yes , Western-centric..

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RE[3]: Am I the only one?
by zombie process on Thu 19th Jul 2007 15:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Am I the only one?"
zombie process Member since:
2005-07-08

FWIW, the US is pretty much a 3rd world country when it comes to internet pipe. Sure, we control many of the internet resources, but most places still have crap for connectivity, and the teclos are largely to blame.

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