Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Thu 19th Jul 2007 06:51 UTC
Multimedia, AV Geeks.com sent us over one of the best video cards on the market today: the GeForce 86000GTS with 256 MB VRAM and a crazy fast 675 MHz engine clock. The card is on the high side of the middle-end graphics cards compared to others available and it's currently selling below $200. In this article we will test the multimedia performance of the card as used in video playback and rendering support rather than its already well-benchmarked multiple times so far and well-known gaming abilities.
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Best?
by abasher on Thu 19th Jul 2007 08:02 UTC
abasher
Member since:
2007-07-19

First, typo: 86000GTS on the third link.

Secondly, presenting the 8600GTS as "one of the best video cards on the market today" is just odd. It's a budget card, and not a highly recommended one. It's for example not mentioned on Tom's Hardware "Best Gaming Cards for the Money: June 2007" Guide ( http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/11/the_best_gaming_video_cards_... ).

I normally enjoy OSNews well filtered set of news, but a hardware review site it isn't.

RE: Best?
by Eugenia on Thu 19th Jul 2007 08:08 in reply to "Best?"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I disagree. I spent a week reading gaming reviews online, and I haven't heard a bad word about it. It is not a slow budget card. According to gaming reviews elsewhere, it is middle-to-high-end.

For my own needs, as a videographer, it does the job perfectly. And that's why I wrote about it.

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RE[2]: Best?
by smitty on Thu 19th Jul 2007 15:08 in reply to "RE: Best?"
smitty Member since:
2005-10-13

You should have read Anandtech, then. They don't exactly come out and say it's horrible, but they do say it was disappointing and they expected more. At least on the gaming side - the multimedia performance is quite good. Calling it one of the best is a little misleading IMHO, unless you specifically state that you're talking about multimedia capabilities and not gaming. Anyway, you're clearly enjoying it and that's what really matters I suppose.

The bottom line is that the 8600 really doesn't offer what we would expect from a next generation midrange part. While on its own the 8600 series is not bad hardware, NVIDIA needs to rely on more than its feature set to sell its product. This is especially true when DX10 games are not abundant and fairly few people are even running an operating system which supports DX10.

The GeForce 6600 GT outperformed the Radeon 9800 Pro in virtually every benchmark, sometimes by large margins. It managed this with prices that were at the time quite a bit lower than the previous generation's champ. GeForce 7600 GT was also typically faster than GeForce 6800 GT/GS, and it once again came with a lower price tag. The 8600 hardware on the other hand doesn't appear significantly faster or cheaper than the cards it's replacing..

Even if we can't expect new hardware at a particular price point to blow away the competition, we would at least like to see a consistently better performance than similarly priced previous generation hardware. Our follow up benchmarks confirm that we simply don't get this from the 8600 series. For users who want the highest performance for their money, the 8600 series is not the answer. If you can live without full H.264 decoding support and you still want DirectX 10, the 8800 GTS 320 is currently so much faster than the 8600 GTS that we would recommend spending the extra ~$75.


Edited 2007-07-19 15:18

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RE: Best?
by flanque on Thu 19th Jul 2007 09:05 in reply to "Best?"
flanque Member since:
2005-12-15

I have to agree with you. I was puzzled at the comment of it being one of the best. I don't see any compelling reason to put it into that category.

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RE: Best?
by l3v1 on Thu 19th Jul 2007 10:02 in reply to "Best?"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

Wording... if it would say one of the best in price/performance for this particular purpose, or just best for this purpose, or not even using "best" since it's really not compared to anything but saying good/nice/well performing for this purpose for such a price, well, then I don't think anyone would've commented anything. But.

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RE: Best?
by MamiyaOtaru on Thu 19th Jul 2007 22:14 in reply to "Best?"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

[quote]presenting the 8600GTS as "one of the best video cards on the market today" is just odd. It's a budget card, and not a highly recommended one. It's for example not mentioned on Tom's Hardware "Best Gaming Cards for the Money[/quote]

Eugenia was reviewing its multimedia playback capabilities. The 8800(gts/gtx/ultra) doesn't have H.264 decoding support, making the 8600gts just about nVidia's best card with that playback capability she was reviewing (you'll note her comment "gaming aside, etc").

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RE: Best?
by cerbie on Fri 20th Jul 2007 12:23 in reply to "Best?"
cerbie Member since:
2006-01-02

Tom's doesn't have any 8600 GTS in their VGA charts. There's nothing to back up their claim as to what is good for the money. They spent time coming up with a list, but not showing how or why the list is worth anything.

Digit-life's digests are for more useful, and with less text to boot. But, they don't spoon-feed a list of, "if your wallet is this thick, buy this card." Unfortunately for Tom's guys, non-gaming features and other concerns (like noise--I can get nothing faster than a 8600GTS that's silent) often matter, in which case game FPS is still important, but not everything.

But, yeah, this is why OSNews shouldn't try to be a PC hardware upgrade site ;) .

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