During his opening speech at the GNOME Developers conference GUADEC Jono Bacon, community manager for the Ubuntu distribution, called for a common vision inside the project, an area in which the project as a whole is currently lacking. Only a few hours later Red Hat developers Havoc Pennington and Bryan Clark presented their own proposal for a reinvention of the Open Source desktop: The GNOME Online Desktop. My take: As I have been saying for a long time, GNOME needs a vision (and leaders) for the future. I'm glad that people are finally stepping up.
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And -- as I said -- on Mac OS X there's Fink to do exactly the same.
If you really think that those few config files waste gigs of HDD space (they don't), you could use tools like AppTrap: http://osx.iusethis.com/screenshot/apptrap.png
There also Apple HIGs. So? What's wrong with a tool (in this case Interface Builder) that helps the developers with perfect widget alignment?
GIMP, OpenOffice, Konqueror, VLC (the preferences window), etc.
Member since:2005-07-06
GIMP isn't a GNOME application, neither is Konqueror or VLC.
VLC is a multiplatform WxWidget application, if you change something to meet 'GNOME HIG' requirements you end up angering those who run it on MacOS X and Windows. Again, its a multiplatform application.
OpenOffice is improving, but if you notice major issues then lodge bugs for it and what is wrong - again, simply screaming that things are nice on this forum isn't going to fix it.
Konqueror is a KDE application - not a GNOME one. This article is talking about GNOME and GNOME related applications.
So far you've failed to point out where applications in GNOME fail to conform to the GNOME HIG. You've pointed out all three applications which are not official GNOME applications, not bundled with GNOME and 2 of the three are 'designed from scratch' multi-platform applications and hence, again, a designed as such - of course it will stick out.
Again, you've failed to give examples; Take some screen shots and point out the flaws. Simply screaming from the side lines, again, without evidence is nothing more than flame bait and best and slander at worse. Screaming without lodging bugs shows that you have no desire to actually correct the issues but instead scream and shout because you like the sound of your own voice.
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2005-07-06
And if anyone prefers the "Linux way", there's Fink.
I also don't know why you're complaining about a few KB of application settings left of the HDD. It's not that they matter in a 80+ GB HDD environment.
Excuse me, for me, its pkgadd -d [package] and when I want to uninstall it pkgrm [package], want to find a package, pkginfo | grep [package] - what is so hard or difficult about that. Apple uses packages and yet there is no uninstall for them - how do you explain that one? packages that use install scripts and yet, no way to remove those pieces beyond searching through the hard disk. The configuration files are a symptom of a bigger issue.
Interface Builder helps the developers to align an application's GUI widgets. This way even a developer who is not a usability expert can design windows that look organized and clean.
Excuse me, but given that all one has to do is read the GNOME HIG and follow those instructions, I'd say its laziness more than anything else.
Oh, and if there are alignment issues - then lodge a bug; numerous bugs relating to widget alignment have been made to the Pidgin and XChat projects, and they all get corrected in a timely manner.
Name *ONE application that is messy and disorganised that are of 'high profile'.