Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Jul 2007 11:15 UTC, submitted by Kaj de Vos
Syllable, AtheOS The Syllable project has released a new package of Builder, the system that builds Syllable, its native applications, and ported applications. Builder can also be installed on Linux. This release matches the Syllable 0.6.4 source code. It also contains the beginnings of a branch for the upcoming Syllable Server based on the Linux kernel. Part of the documentation for Builder was just integrated in the new Syllable documentation set. The full manual is in Builder/README. Further, the development version for the next Syllable release already has a new gigabit ethernet driver, for the D-Link DL2000.
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What's the point?
by plfiorini on Fri 20th Jul 2007 17:20 UTC
plfiorini
Member since:
2005-06-30

Does Syllable Desktop still matters?
If Syllable Server is not bloated like a 'normal' Linux distro with tons of packages and heavy weight desktop environments, applications can be easily recompiled, why developers don't make Syllable Server the new Syllable OS?

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RE: What's the point?
by ideasman42 on Fri 20th Jul 2007 17:41 in reply to "What's the point?"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

Its nice that a group of people are a totally new desktop.

From the comments in the last post I guess they think having their own kernel is important enough to warrant writing one.

The SkyOS author seemed to think having the UI mixed into the kernel made it more responsive.

Personally I would be happy to see a new 'Desktop OS' build on the linux, especially if it breaks away from X11/GTK/QT and standard unix stuff (they are all well and good in their own way but also have drawbacks from unix heritage).


All the minor OS's want better drivers so Its surprising more of them dont go this way- Even if linux is not their IDEAL kernel it would be a hell of a lot easier then writing a new one. With compile time choice of schedulers, preempt etc in Linux Im sure a configuration could be made so it dosnt totaly suck for a lightweight OS like syllable..

I quietly think that the 'Syllable Server' project may gain more traction and end up being the most popular syllable OS. - But who knows, give it some time to evolve.

PS... If people want to write new and innovative kernel, then great. But for a kernel thats not a hole lot different from existing free (and MAINTAINED) kernels.. it seems like a good way thr throw away a few years of your life ;)

Edited 2007-07-20 17:50

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RE[2]: What's the point?
by computrius on Fri 20th Jul 2007 22:14 in reply to "RE: What's the point?"
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2006-03-26

I would also like to see that. If there was a well developed linux distro that had a non X based gui and just blew away all of the load of crap that is currently there (ie made a single unified clear API for programming under the operating system) I would switch to it in a heartbeat.

This is pretty much what apple did with OSX and bsd, and id say its a pretty successful trial case.

As it stands all linux distros are giant hodge podges of hacks stacked on top of hacks stacked on top of hacks to make it appear as if its user friendly at first glance. But nothing truly is.

Edited 2007-07-20 22:17

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RE: What's the point?
by Vanders on Fri 20th Jul 2007 18:15 in reply to "What's the point?"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Does Syllable Desktop still matters?


Yes.

If Syllable Server is not bloated like a 'normal' Linux distro with tons of packages and heavy weight desktop environments, applications can be easily recompiled, why developers don't make Syllable Server the new Syllable OS?


Even as a light weight OS on top of Linux, Syllable Server will still be heavier than Syllable Desktop and less suitable for general desktop use.

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