Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2007 21:11 UTC, submitted by kwag
PC-BSD The first beta of PC-BSD 1.4 has been released. "After months of hard work, the PC-BSD team is pleased to make available the 1.4 BETA release. This version includes many exciting new features and software, such as 3D desktop support via Beryl, KDE 3.5.7, FreeBSD 6.2, Xorg 7.2, new GUI tools & utilities, and much more." Get it from the download page.
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RE[2]: Wow!
by OSGuy on Sat 21st Jul 2007 22:04 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow!"
OSGuy
Member since:
2006-01-01

Yes the desktop is the same BUT the base isn't. They also do things their own way. With PC-BSD you install programs like you do in Windows. The good thing is, you can download the setup (PBI) file from ANY web location and then save it anywhere on your disk and install it from that location. With other systems such as Synaptic, what would happen if the "requested" server is down and you want the file right now? Ok ok, I know you have different servers but this is just an example. It also puts files all over the place because that's how normally is....With PBI, you have all your programs in one location called "Program Files"....ooops, I mean "Programs".

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RE[3]: Wow!
by n0xx on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow!"
n0xx Member since:
2005-07-12

http://autopackage.org/
http://www.getdeb.net/
http://rpmfind.net/
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Those actually do it the right way (the same can't be said about PBIs), cause none of those packages duplicates dependencies left and right which is kind of a nasty security issue. In an ordinary Gnome desktop, every installed application is listed in the applications menu.

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RE[4]: Wow!
by Doc Pain on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:28 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow!"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

"Those actually do it the right way (the same can't be said about PBIs), cause none of those packages duplicates dependencies left and right which is kind of a nasty security issue."

Don't confuse PC-BSD's PBI packages with the precompiled packages you can use in FreeBSD (and the same way in PC-BSD, too).

PC-BSD offers three kinds of installing applications:

1. PBI (recommended way)

Download, doubleclick, click, click... done.

2. Packages (very comfortable)

# pkg_add -r xmms

3. Ports (when compiling from source is intended or needed in order to compile with certain options)

# cd /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer
# ee Makefile.local
...
# make install

Numbers 2 and 3 are not consistent with number 1, so be careful and know what you're doing.

" In an ordinary Gnome desktop, every installed application is listed in the applications menu."

PC-BSD is very KDE centric, but the installed PBI applications are listed in a special submenu. Applications installed by ports or packages need to be installed into the menu manually, if I remember correctly.

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RE[4]: Wow!
by juno_106 on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 00:54 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow!"
juno_106 Member since:
2007-06-24

Those actually do it the right way (the same can't be said about PBIs)

The right way for you is the wrong way for me. I don't care if there are sometimes duplication of libraries. I don't feel the difference on my computer. But I *do* care if my system breaks because dependencies are missing, which has happened to me a lot.

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RE[4]: Wow!
by OSGuy on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 04:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow!"
OSGuy Member since:
2006-01-01

I think you are missing the point.

Enough said....

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