Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2007 20:58 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source "Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright - to promote progress, for the benefit of the public - then we must make changes in the other direction. This talk by Richard M. Stallman is broken into two parts: the main talk and the question and answer sessions following the talk. Both are available in only OGG/Theora format in keeping with Stallman's wishes."
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Ogg/Theora
by WorknMan on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:00 UTC
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Both are available in only OGG/Theora format in keeping with Stallman's wishes."

And that means the people who he wants to hear this the most probably don't have the needed codecs installed, including me. Nice going, Stallman.
This reminds me of a document that Microsoft once put out, who's target audience was the *nix/open source community, and they released in their XPS format. *pffffft*

But I agree with him ... when it comes to digital distribution as it pertains to copyright, the cat is out of the bag, and there's no putting it back in. Any system that depends on people being honest is a system that's going to fail. Of course, many of the people who will steal the content are the same ones who rail against corporations being greedy and dishonest, but I digress.

Edited 2007-07-21 23:03

v RE: Ogg/Theora
by Bending Unit on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:09 in reply to "Ogg/Theora"
RE[2]: Ogg/Theora
by zsitvaij on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:15 in reply to "RE: Ogg/Theora"
zsitvaij Member since:
2006-06-14

Yep, as long as it is not in a sensible format, I'm not going to bother.


Heaven forbid someone stick to their principles.

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RE[2]: Ogg/Theora
by lemur2 on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 10:54 in reply to "RE: Ogg/Theora"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Yep, as long as it is not in a sensible format, I'm not going to bother.


Ogg/Theora is THE most sensible format ... anyone can use it.

Even oppressed Windows users can use it.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm

http://www.vorbis.com/setup_windows/

http://xiph.org/downloads/

Enjoy!

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RE[2]: Ogg/Theora
by Redeeman on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 11:28 in reply to "RE: Ogg/Theora"
Redeeman Member since:
2006-03-23

sensible format? give me a break, ffmpeg decodes it, and if you dont even have the best decoding package there is, then you are a fool, and shouldnt blame others for actually using a format that everyone can use FREELY. but i guess you'd rather be chained somewhere to a proprietary format you'd have to go to jail for using...

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RE: Ogg/Theora
by dylansmrjones on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:15 in reply to "Ogg/Theora"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Well, install them then... or use VLC. The codecs are completely free - in every sense. So no excuse for not having 'em around ;)

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RE: Ogg/Theora
by Valhalla on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:19 in reply to "Ogg/Theora"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

WorknMan wrote:
-"And that means the people who he wants to hear this the most probably don't have the needed codecs installed, including me. Nice going, Stallman."

it's an OPEN format. there are a variety of players on windows that can handle it,

http://videolan.org/
stand alone player that works with ogg/theora and practically any other format you may think of.

directshow plugins, codecs, source code
http://www.theora.org/

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RE: Ogg/Theora
by b3timmons on Sat 21st Jul 2007 23:28 in reply to "Ogg/Theora"
b3timmons Member since:
2006-08-26

And that means the people who he wants to hear this the most probably don't have the needed codecs installed, including me. Nice going, Stallman.

You do not have to agree with him in order to see that his wish for a free and open format of video distribution is consistent with the theme of the very video being distributed. Some may consider a non-free or non-open format in this case to be hypocritical.

Of course, many of the people who will steal the content are the same ones who rail against corporations being greedy and dishonest, but I digress.

First, copyright infringement is not stealing.[1] Second, your statement that those who criticize corporations for greed and dishonesty are also copyright infringers is not remotely justifiable. E.g., corporate critic Noam Chomsky bothering to infringe on something? The mind boggles.

[1]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement_of_software

(Although the article is about software, it presents general facts about copyrighted material.)

Edited 2007-07-21 23:37

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