Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2007 21:11 UTC, submitted by kwag
PC-BSD The first beta of PC-BSD 1.4 has been released. "After months of hard work, the PC-BSD team is pleased to make available the 1.4 BETA release. This version includes many exciting new features and software, such as 3D desktop support via Beryl, KDE 3.5.7, FreeBSD 6.2, Xorg 7.2, new GUI tools & utilities, and much more." Get it from the download page.
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my problem with pc-bsd
by OStourist on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 01:06 UTC
OStourist
Member since:
2007-06-19

Is it just me who doesn't get it; I mean
when you only have support natively for flash-7
and have to use ANOTHER static version of firefox with
some kind of linux emulation to get flash-9 working
- isn't this situation just absurd? Never mind
about opera.
Until freebsd has ALL the stuff needed for a desktop,
java, flash-9 and some kind of realplay support
for cnn sites..it won't replace my linux desktop.
The fact that freebsd lags behind linux in good software is a real problem.
I am much more interested in DesktopBSD..at least
they don't use such hacks

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RE: my problem with pc-bsd
by Chuck Norris on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 01:20 in reply to "my problem with pc-bsd"
Chuck Norris Member since:
2007-03-24

The fact that freebsd lags behind linux in good software is a real problem.

FreeBSD has the same applications as Linux. Virtually more because it potentially has all BSD and Linux applications while Linux only has Linux applications.

I am much more interested in DesktopBSD..at least
they don't use such hacks


Are you serious? How do you want to solve your problems without hacks? LOL

If you don't use hacks you have a raw BSD system with everything to configure yourself. Try to configure FreeBSD entirely to your taste with Flash, JRE, codecs, Acrobat Reader, etc... See how long it takes.

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RE[2]: my problem with pc-bsd
by OStourist on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 02:35 in reply to "RE: my problem with pc-bsd"
OStourist Member since:
2007-06-19

Well it may have potentially more software
but a lot of packages are broken..Gnome for example.

You are right that you need hacks to get flash working
and to me it seems like what you wind up doing
is running all of the essential desktop stuff like
flash or java in linux emulation mode.
Fair enough but I would rather have native
stuff like Solaris has.(yes flash is ported natively
to solaris)

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RE: my problem with pc-bsd
by antik on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 07:05 in reply to "my problem with pc-bsd"
antik Member since:
2006-05-19

Is it just me who doesn't get it; I mean
when you only have support natively for flash-7
and have to use ANOTHER static version of firefox with some kind of linux emulation to get flash-9 working - isn't this situation just absurd? Never mind about opera.

Who said that Flash 7 is native- it's a Linux version? PC-BSD got Linux Compatibility Layer *ONLY* because of Adobe FLASH and GAMES. So your statement is ABSURD. And Linux Emulation doesn not mean you are using somekind of XEN or VMWARE on your computer- that would be really stupid thing to do- it means you got layer between Linux applications and FreeBSD kernel that translates Linux specific API to FreeBSD API. Sometimes in FreeBSD Linux emulation Linux apps are working faster than in native Linux itsef....

Until freebsd has ALL the stuff needed for a desktop, java, flash-9 and some kind of realplay support for cnn sites..it won't replace my linux desktop.
Java = FreeBSD native
Flash 9 = Linux binary- crashes a lot, using infamous ALSA s**t, etc.
Realplayer = FreeBSD native

The fact that freebsd lags behind linux in good software is a real problem.
What you mean by good software? Skype, Flash? I think that is Linux problem that there is problem porting some app to FreeBSD because of complete lack in POSIX compliance of Linux developers minds and some questionable Linux only features.

I am much more interested in DesktopBSD..at least they don't use such hacks

Err, now give me ONE example where DesktopBSD differs from PC-BSD? I still don't get it about what hacks you are talking about? They are both FreeBSD 6.2 currently, both use latest KDE, both does not modify any freebsd underlying code and both using ONLY FreeBSD repositories to install 3rd party applications from ports. Most PBIs are generated from ports also.

PC-BSD is not a FORK- it's a FreeBSD with pimped up configuration and additional tools not found in original FreeBSD installation.

Feel free to ask any question, I am a PC-BSD Quality Assurance Manager and can help you.

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RE[2]: my problem with pc-bsd
by OStourist on Sun 22nd Jul 2007 12:38 in reply to "RE: my problem with pc-bsd"
OStourist Member since:
2007-06-19

OK good software..at least 3 modern
jukboxes let's say rhytmbox, exaile and amarak
Video: mplayer , totem-xine and vlc + full set
of codecs(Fedora has this down pat)
P2P: emule, apollon, frostwire, bittorent
Web: Opera with flash-9 and java applets
same for firefox
Must be able to launch CDs and DVDs automatically
if desired like Fedora or windows..

I did try PC-BSD a year ago and found that while
the kernel seemed more stable and snappier
than linux it failed due to missing applications above.

Don't get me wrong..I would rather have BSD than linux as my kernel because linux is a hack in
many more ways than PC-BSD. But, like windows, it kinda works..
Anyway I will give the new PC-BSD a fair shake and
report back..do u know if PC-BSD runs well as
a vmware guest in linux?

Edited 2007-07-22 12:40

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