Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2007 21:04 UTC, submitted by troy.unrau
Internet & Networking "There is one major web rendering engine that grew entirely out of the open source world: KHTML is KDE's web renderer which was built from the ground up by the open source community with very little original corporate backing. The code was good and branches were born as a result, the best known being Webkit. Now, after years of split, KHTML and Webkit are coming together once again."
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RE[2]: Great great great news
by umccullough on Tue 24th Jul 2007 00:21 UTC in reply to "RE: Great great great news"
umccullough
Member since:
2006-01-26

I see this used a lot, but I'm not sure that "competition" is the right term when it comes to something developed by free software communities. Wouldn't "alternative" be better? I mean, what are they competing for?

Marketshare.

Just because it's FOSS doesn't mean there's no competition! When you sit down to play games with friends, don't you intend to win? What would be the point of building an alternative if it wasn't intended to compete with an existing solution in some way.

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raynevandunem Member since:
2006-11-24

Maybe because "competition" is such a corporately-tainted word that has gained excessive dictionarial (English) baggage over the last several decades?

"Competition" is best used to compare Dell and HP, or Canon and Nokia, not KDE and GNOME or Gecko and WebKit.

That is, unless you want to count the corporate backings which are put behind such projects (Apple/Nokia/Adobe behind WebKit, Mozilla/Google behind Gecko, Novell/Sun behind GNOME, Trolltech behind KDE, etc). Then yeah, they're "competing".

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RE[4]: Great great great news
by sappyvcv on Tue 24th Jul 2007 01:12 in reply to "RE[3]: Great great great news"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

The word compete is tained? That's um.. interesting. Did corporations pay off dictionary companies to change the definition or something?

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superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

At aKademy, the term "co-opetition" is mostly used for Gnome (cooperation & competition in one term, indeed). And in the netherlands the term "con-collega's" is used, roughly translatable as "colleagues from the competition". After all, we invented the 'poldermodel', which apparently is also used for competition. A bit dangerous, of course (as it borders on illegal cartel deals and stuff).

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RE[3]: Great great great news
by wirespot on Tue 24th Jul 2007 08:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Great great great news"
wirespot Member since:
2006-06-21

The very definition of "game" means that there's a winner and several losers. As for "marketshare", it has very definite economical connotations, as in "buy and sell". Now, I don't recall the GNU manifesto speaking along these lines, in fact I distinctly remember it shunning commercialization.

A certain amount of competitivity is of course understood in any endeavour. The teams of similar free software projects will naturally have a drive to make the best stuff, surpassing the others. But it's not for mercantile reasons.

"Marketshare", "competition" etc. have distinct commercial tones and meanings. Which IMHO are not appropriate. At the very least, because they imply that free software is driven by the same mechanisms that drive economy, and that's a huge fallacy.

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