Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2007 21:20 UTC, submitted by Innova
Gentoo "Over the past few days, I discovered that the Gentoo Foundation's charter is in the process of being revoked by the state of New Mexico, apparently due to regular paperwork not being filed by the trustees. What this means is that the Gentoo Foundation is currently hanging for its life by a string, and at any day could cease to exist as an entity. That is the very bad news. The good news is that I was able to talk to Grant Goodyear (trustee) this morning on the phone, and I have confirmed that Grant had received my email about the revocation issue that I sent 2 days ago and that he will be resolving this critical issue in the next couple of days by filing the appropriate paperwork with the state of New Mexico, and this paperwork will also remove me as President of the Foundation."
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RE[8]: I hope things work out
by b00gie on Tue 24th Jul 2007 19:07 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: I hope things work out"
b00gie
Member since:
2006-06-09

I have just checked and there are ebuilds available for the SVN of KDE4 although if you are arguing they should be marked stable, you crackers.


what i'm arguing is that if gentoo would like to be called a distro of bleeding edge then there should be many developers working and *contributing* back to kde for their next release and ebuild should have already found their way in portage even hard masked so users can test it. That's what we call bleeding edge sir! Who cares for kde's minor releases...
That is what we call *innovation*, *research* and *contribution*.
A common response that i see in many bugs: "well we will see what upstream has to say..."
Most of developers do not care any more to contribute something back, fix bugs or backport a fix (backport in gentoo = lol).


But again the problem is *NOT* developers its administration read the damn post.


I have already express my feelings for trustees... :p

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RE[9]: I hope things work out
by cyclops on Tue 24th Jul 2007 19:15 in reply to "RE[8]: I hope things work out"
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

"what i'm arguing is that if gentoo would like to be called a distro of bleeding edge then there should be many developers working and *contributing* back to kde for their next release and ebuild should have already found their way in portage even hard masked so users can test it. That's what we call bleeding edge sir! Who cares for kde's minor releases...
That is what we call *innovation*, *research* and *contribution*.
A common response that i see in many bugs: "well we will see what upstream has to say..."
Most of developers do not care any more to contribute something back, fix bugs or backport a fix (backport in gentoo = lol). "

Clearly you are confused by the term bleeding-edge. Is is basically the ability to run the latest packages...which it does. Anything you say otherwise is a lie.

If you want to create a new off-topic comment please do so.

You seem to have moved onto the fact that KDE should backport fixes rather than move people onto the *fixed* version...but the strange thing is you want to use KDE4, what do you want?? portage allows for stable; unstable; masked and allows your own and has SVN builds you now want something else Gentoo does not work like that, of course you are aware that you can add patches though your OWN ebuild, although personally I think your too confused about what you want. I would argue that moving users to the latest most stable version is the best use of a Distributors time, rather than fixing up legacy packages, and unlike Binary distributions which are *static* between releases Gentoo is more a moving target thats why it has upstream features. Although it does include fixes for all sorts thats what all those r1 and r2 people see is about. Have you even heard of Gentoo?

But again this is a *NEW* topic.

"I have already express my feelings for trustees"

To be fair you haven't a single post that focuses on the topic of administration. Your focus has been on Gentoo the product. It would be nice if you could be on topic.

Edited 2007-07-24 19:28

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RE[10]: I hope things work out
by b00gie on Tue 24th Jul 2007 20:13 in reply to "RE[9]: I hope things work out"
b00gie Member since:
2006-06-09

till now i never got off topic because you don't understand that there is no ideological problem for administration to discuss!
Who cares about politics, GNU, software freedoms and such rants when the main problem is that the action's by trustees affect in every way the developers and they are the guys who keep project up and running.
It's simple... if you cannot locate the problems and understand them how will you fix the foundation?

but now you want to discuss what we call bleeding edge.. well that is offtopic for sure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding_edge
"technology that is so new (and thus, presumably, not perfected) that the user is required to risk reductions in stability and productivity in order to use it"

So minor releases are NOT bleeding edge cause they are most of them bug fixes and small changes.

Also in the rest of you paragraph you confuse developers with users and you make new terms (binary are "static"? major distros already working and contributing back to kde or you want me to add the patches and communicate with upstream? im the user! that is developer's work)

That's from me...

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