Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Jul 2007 21:20 UTC, submitted by Innova
Gentoo "Over the past few days, I discovered that the Gentoo Foundation's charter is in the process of being revoked by the state of New Mexico, apparently due to regular paperwork not being filed by the trustees. What this means is that the Gentoo Foundation is currently hanging for its life by a string, and at any day could cease to exist as an entity. That is the very bad news. The good news is that I was able to talk to Grant Goodyear (trustee) this morning on the phone, and I have confirmed that Grant had received my email about the revocation issue that I sent 2 days ago and that he will be resolving this critical issue in the next couple of days by filing the appropriate paperwork with the state of New Mexico, and this paperwork will also remove me as President of the Foundation."
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RE[14]: I hope things work out
by b00gie on Wed 25th Jul 2007 00:48 UTC in reply to "RE[13]: I hope things work out"
b00gie
Member since:
2006-06-09

first i never moved from a statement to another.
all i have already said are valid.
You must be new in gentoo so it's ok by me.
Please consider that i'm not asking for something new ;)
if i remember right they had ebuilds for all alpha,beta,rc releases with patches in portage in old days (missed them ;_;) for kde.
if i also recall right gentoo had also many ebuilds for prerelease of gnome for version 2 (a major release).
so it's not something new because that time everyone was living at real bleeding edge.

and... no... contribution is in a low lvl.
Most of the times the patches they use are coming from upstream.
For example, recently they removed xine support from totem (they said none from the team use xine lol). Of course it's easy for me to make a new ebuild but..hey.. is that the freedom u ask for?
What if we have to do with a more complicated installation?
Another example...
There is a well known bug in wxgtk that crashes applications like amule (both stable).
It exists for MONTHS and you know it's not an easy case. You cannot always make the superman and fix ebuilds or update them your own.
Bugs depends on other bugs and a user can't make it all by himself.
I think the msg is simple and well known to the management...
Gentoo has to make serious recruits and be more policed, with new ideas and freedom for their developers to make as they wish and have FUN.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15


For example, recently they removed xine support from totem (they said none from the team use xine lol). Of course it's easy for me to make a new ebuild but..hey.. is that the freedom u ask for?


You really try to use any strawman argument you can to bash Gentoo? So, if they removed Xine support from Totem, then they did that. You still get to choose more than you get with any binary distro where you can't decide at all what features are apps compiled with. In a binary distro you just gotta stick with what the package provides.

And well, I don't know of any wxGTK bugs, all the apps are working just fine on my system. YMMV.


and tell me now in which way gentoo project contributes e.g in kde?
how many developers are working on kde4?
and not just kde but any other project...
let me remind you that most major "static" distros contribute with innovative code, one guy from suse made a new kde menu, the other guy from ubuntu made a new menu editor for gnome etc etc...


Err, that's utterly stinky BS :O Gentoo devs don't contribute to any of the open-source projects? Bah! They're just as active as the devs for any other distro, and you know very well that was a strawman.

If you don't like Gentoo, then don't. But stop trolling, please. I f.ex. don't like Ubuntu, but I'm not bashing it nor am I trolling around, I just choose something that pleases me; yes, Gentoo.

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RE[16]: I hope things work out
by cyclops on Wed 25th Jul 2007 13:21 in reply to "RE[15]: I hope things work out"
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

Xine support is in totem.

media-video/totem-2.16.5 USE="a52 dbus dvd ffmpeg firefox flac hal lirc mad mpeg ogg theora vorbis xv -debug -gnome -nsplugin -nvtv -xine"

He just doesn't want to *learn* Gentoo. This is not a reference to other Distributions, which do not have the large learning curve of Gentoo etc etc. I'm beginning to suspect he hasn't even tried it. He certainly can't use it effectively...and has no interest in building his skills.

Its just another argument because his other posts are so trivial to refute getting more and more difficult to read because he has nothing *real* to say

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