Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jul 2007 22:57 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Mark Shuttleworth has announced that Dell will expand its Linux offerings. "What's been announced to date is not the full extent of what we will see over the next couple of weeks and months," Shuttleworth said an interview late on Wednesday. "There are additional offerings in the pipeline," he said. Shuttleworth founded Canonical to provide support for Ubuntu Linux. A Dell spokeswoman, Anne Camden, declined comment, saying the company does not discuss products in the pipeline.
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Not so fast...
by Googlesaurus on Sat 28th Jul 2007 03:31 UTC
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2005-10-19

Something makes me wonder how many of these systems are now running XP......

My guess.... MANY.

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RE: Not so fast...
by archiesteel on Sat 28th Jul 2007 04:08 in reply to "Not so fast..."
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Why would someone go to the trouble of getting a Ubuntu Dell PC to replace the OS with XP? It's not as if the Ubuntu PCs are much cheaper than the Windows counterpart.

Methinks you are simply letting your bias cloud your judgement here...

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RE[2]: Not so fast...
by cyclops on Sat 28th Jul 2007 07:13 in reply to "RE: Not so fast..."
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2006-03-12

"Methinks you are simply letting your bias cloud your judgement here..."

I think its more interesting that the "bias" he uses is XP not Vista as an example. I wonder when Vista will be ready for the Desktop. Especially since they have certified rather a lot of devices since launch, they cannot use *drivers* as an excuse anymore, those days are gone...and an OEM chooses the hardware that work well in their machines, and come with little stickers to prove it.

Although I actually suspect that by an order of magnitude more XP machines dual-boot or are Dedicated Ubuntu machines than those sold by Dell, and an awful lot of those will be from Dell.

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RE: Not so fast...
by lemur2 on Sat 28th Jul 2007 07:14 in reply to "Not so fast..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Something makes me wonder how many of these systems are now running XP......

My guess.... MANY.


You aren't very good at guessing, are you?

(1) If someone wanted XP, that is available form Dell on the same machine at a very similar price. Getting XP on your Dell machine this way is not only "genuine", it is far less trouble.

(2) If someone who was competent in installing an OS was buying the machine, why would they get one with Ubuntu then put XP on it? It is far easier to get one with XP and then put Ubuntu on the machine. It is also easier to make a dual boot machine by starting with one that has Windows on it in the first place.

Deliberately getting an Ubuntu machine from Dell (at just about the same purchase price as a legal XP Dell machine) then wiping Ubuntu and putting an illegal copy of XP on it makes no sense at all. You would have to be a certified loon to do that.

You didn't think your comment through very well, now did you?

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RE[2]: Not so fast...
by elsewhere on Sun 29th Jul 2007 04:08 in reply to "RE: Not so fast..."
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13


You aren't very good at guessing, are you?

(1) If someone wanted XP, that is available form Dell on the same machine at a very similar price. Getting XP on your Dell machine this way is not only "genuine", it is far less trouble.

(2) If someone who was competent in installing an OS was buying the machine, why would they get one with Ubuntu then put XP on it? It is far easier to get one with XP and then put Ubuntu on the machine. It is also easier to make a dual boot machine by starting with one that has Windows on it in the first place.


Actually, having dealt with both Dell and HP machines "out of the box", I'd probably take the *buntu version, save $30 or whatever and throw my own copy of XP or Vista on it (assuming I needed a Windows machine). Not only would it save money, but it would save time from having to delete the crapware, because a clean install is easier and faster.

If I was a non-*buntu user, I'd also buy the *buntu version, save $30 or whatever and throw my distro of choice on top of it.

I'm happy that Dell is acknowledging the existence of linux, but let's be serious, they are not making a commitment here, it's a publicity play. When they make the effort to actually include documentation and fancy foldouts that includes references to Ubuntu rather than Windows, that would be a step. Right now, they haven't done anything more than simply pre-install a free download. A good step, to be certain, but hardly a ringing endorsement.

It's good buzz for the community, but until Dell actually invests some dollars rather than directing users to the forums or Canonical for a paid contract, whenever anything goes wrong, it's an empty gesture in the long run.

Maybe I'm overly cynical, but I can't believe for one second that Dell has actually attracted non-linux users to purchasing a linux-based system. They haven't marketed it and they've done nothing to differentiate it. Any success they're getting is simply from existing linux users or people escaping the Windows tax. Good for Dell, but hardly an paradigm shifting advancement.

I'll still give them props, though, because even baby steps are still a step forward.

EDIT: Typo

Edited 2007-07-29 04:09 UTC

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RE: Not so fast...
by Soulbender on Mon 30th Jul 2007 06:20 in reply to "Not so fast..."
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Something makes me wonder how many of these systems are now running XP"

I wonder how many of the XP systems sold are now running something else.

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