Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2007 09:04 UTC
Linux "People who think SD was 'perfect' were simply ignoring reality," Linus Torvalds began in a succinct explanation as to why he chose the CFS scheduler written by Ingo Molnar instead of the SD scheduler written by Con Kolivas. He continued, "sadly, that seemed to include Con too, which was one of the main reasons that I never [entertained] the notion of merging SD for very long at all: Con ended up arguing against people who reported problems, rather than trying to work with them." He went on to stress the importance of working toward a solution that is good for everyone, "that was where the SD patches fell down. They didn't have a maintainer that I could trust to actually care about any other issues than his own." Update: OSNews user superstoned pointed us to the other side of the story.
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kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Having lurked lkml for years... it's incredible that people still want to do stuff for Linus, when he keeps bashing people like he does after they've spent days and nights shipping code to Linux (lot of CK's stuff have been important drivers for improving the kernel). Sure, Linus says people do whatever they want to do and he reserves himself the right to call people stupid and ugly at will. Fine, but to me, he increasingly comes across as narcissistic sociopath (especially after the google techtalk craze).


Its the old story of smart people - the smarter they are, something has got to give, they're either, weird, arrogant, strange, violent or some other trait.

I've seen the debates that occur on lkml - and the end of the day its up to you as to whether you wish to contribute and be part of the community. No one is forcing you to join and contribute to Linux - if you don't like how things are going, there is nothing stopping you from forking the Linux code and creating your own community.

Thats the thing; if there was such a major issue with Linus, someone would have forked Linux, created a parallel community. All things consistant, if there was such a dislike for Linus's mannerisms, he would have isolated long ago - so I'm assuming he is doing something right (not that I agree with him or how he holds himself).

On a bigger issue, this is the reason, although qualified in IT, I don't work in it. I don't work in it because of what I've seen and experienced; I definately don't want to work in a place like Microsoft were I am constantly pushed, prodded and probed by upper management, expecting me constantly on the defensive about every decision being made, constantly having to advocate and explain every possible position made then interrogated.

I can see why so few females are involved with IT - this constant agressiveness thats required. For me, I prefer working in a team as a team rather than simply a bunch of individuals who happen to be under the title of being a group. Peoples egos, unwillingness to discuss in a polite way seems to go way over the head of many people as I've seen.

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Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

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I can see why so few females are involved with IT - this constant agressiveness thats required. For me, I prefer working in a team as a team rather than simply a bunch of individuals who happen to be under the title of being a group. Peoples egos, unwillingness to discuss in a polite way seems to go way over the head of many people as I've seen.
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Oh, so it is REQUIRED now? No, people make it that way. It doesn't have to BE that way. People become aggressive and insulting because they want their way over someone else's way.

I am guessing that Linus is so famous now that the people who work with him and get their faces slapped actually ENJOY getting their faces slapped by "the great Linus."

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Oh, so it is REQUIRED now? No, people make it that way. It doesn't have to BE that way. People become aggressive and insulting because they want their way over someone else's way.


I've yet to be in a situation where it has been different from the situation described. I say its a biproduct of men in a group sitting around trying to 'out piss' each other. Beating of chests, trying to prove they're the bigger and better alpha male. Its pathetic to see it in action.

I can assure you, having been in a mixed project of male and female you can really see how the dynamics are different. Rather than the leader trying to make a name for himself she instead encouraged and fostered a team atmosphere.

When I look at the IT world its all about ego's, beating of chests and hopeing if one makes enough noise, they win the praise of the leader. Just take a look at Microsoft and how their meetings are conducted - and they wonder why the crapest ideas from the biggest loud mouth are chosen rather than a good idea from the quietly spoken gentlemen at the back of the room who doesn't want to 'rock the boat'.

I am guessing that Linus is so famous now that the people who work with him and get their faces slapped actually ENJOY getting their faces slapped by "the great Linus."


I wouldn't be surprised; there are idiots here who appologise for Stallmans out of touch rantings no end - completely devoid of reality when it comes to delivering solutions for end users.

Btw, it isn't just limited to Linux - I've seen it in a number of projects. Its sad though that for every 1 loud mouth prick there are atleast 9 people behind the scenes working on what matters rather than trying to get their name in lights or have infamy for being the biggest asshole on the block.

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