Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 28th Jul 2007 11:07 UTC
Bugs & Viruses A lot of people have been emailing us about an issue we are having with one of our ads taking over OSNews. Thank you all for emailing us, the information provided is of good use to us. We are currently working on the problem, and will let you know once it has been fixed. We would like to apologise for the inconvenience. Update by DA: I think that I've tracked down the offender. Read more for details Update 2: This time I think we really fixed it.
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RE[4]: Stop blocking ads!
by aent on Mon 30th Jul 2007 05:57 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Stop blocking ads!"
aent
Member since:
2006-01-25

My laptop is over 5 years with a pentium 3 in it, my desktop has an early pentium 4 in it. Any computer that is under 5 yaers old should be able to view the ads without any significant slowdown. There are some sites that go crazy with it, so I just don't visit them. I don't feel I'm missing out, as I don't think any of their sites are worth all of the ads.

And yes, there obviously is going to be a different experience for everyone with ads, since they pay per view. That doesn't make it less fair. I know on TV, I get different ads then people leaving a few blocks away from me, and I think the set that I get tends to be more annoying. I understand that is part of the price to pay for TV.

I only think the line is crossed is when they are trying to be deceptive about where the ad is coming from, the biggest example of that being pop ups and unders, those are purposely designed so you won't know which site gave them to you, but we're talking about ads that are integrated into the site, clear ads that are served with the content. I run a pretty large website myself, and it helps a lot of people out finding what they need, but its difficult to afford a server that is the correct size to handle the needs because my site has a very large percentage of users adblocking, and no, I have no interest in spending $150/month or more of my own month to help people out when I'm already dedicating plenty of my own time already. Because of all of the adblockers, everyone has to have a slower website, so in the case of my own website, the adblockers didn't speed up the experience anyways as it prevented the correct power server from being purchased.

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RE[5]: Stop blocking ads!
by steviant on Mon 30th Jul 2007 12:21 in reply to "RE[4]: Stop blocking ads!"
steviant Member since:
2006-01-11

Exactly what methodology are you using to check your users are using ad blockers? How do you know your advertising partner is being honest with you?

Have you considered that you have too many advertisements (seems likely since you're complaining that a large proportion of users are using ad blocking software on your site - which is not something I can recall anyone reputable site or any of my hosting customers complaining about).

I think it's at least equally likely from what you've said that you're encouraging your users to use adblocking software on your site, by plastering it with so many ads that the content is compromised. Meanwhile those who don't or won't run ad blockers just left in disgust, leaving you with an apparently high proportion of users with ad-blocking software.

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RE[6]: Stop blocking ads!
by aent on Tue 31st Jul 2007 20:44 in reply to "RE[5]: Stop blocking ads!"
aent Member since:
2006-01-25

No, I have few ads, no more then two per page and they are gif/jpgs/pngs, no heavy flashing or flash. Its a rather tech oriented site and most of the users use Firefox (over 70%), and I serve the ads myself, so I doubt I'm getting screwed, its just the default filter filters out my ads... The problem has gotten so bad that I'm planning to move it over to a different subdomain that doesn't contain "ads" in it so less of the default filters will block it.

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RE[7]: Stop blocking ads!
by steviant on Wed 1st Aug 2007 05:07 in reply to "RE[5]: Stop blocking ads!"
steviant Member since:
2006-01-11

I think I see the problem now. Since Firefox doesn't have any kind of "default filter that filters out...ads" or any other kind of ad-blocking built in, your ads must be being blocked by Firefox's popup-blocker.

I very seriously doubt that 100% of Firefox users are using ad-blocking software and 0% of IE users are, which is what you seem to be implying.

As for not serving ads of a server that doesn't contain "ads" in it... Champion idea. I support your right to subvert ad blockers just as much I support the use of them.

What I was trying to say is that it's not a black and white issue, I have adblock plus installed, but I use it as an annoyance remover rather than as a matter of course.

I doubt OSnews has ever lost any money because of me, since I've never blocked any ads from this site, or had cause to call on my other trusty friends greasemonkey, noscript, or flashblock either. It's nice to know that they're there to filter crap out if it's obscuring the text on the page or being annoying.

The last time I used adblock, it was to block a legitimate image served up by nytimes.com because the text flowed underneath the image.

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