Linked by Andrew Youll on Wed 31st Aug 2005 16:24 UTC
Apple I recently bought a Mac Mini, And I thought I'd talk about my experiences in the transition from Windows XP to Mac OS X.
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DVD writing
by Tyr. on Wed 31st Aug 2005 16:49 UTC
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One annoyance I've had after shelling out on a superdrive for my mini is the fact that it doesn't write or READ multiple session DVDs. I actually couldn't believe that when I found it out.

Another thing is the Apple (azerty, bluetooth) keyboard. Nice keyboard ... until you realise there is no pipe symbol on it, or curly braces or tilde (~). And that for a unix-based OS ! Thankfully you can create custom keymaps with the great Ukelele ( http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=uk... )

So would I give up my mac mini? Sure, if you can pry it from my cold dead hands :-)

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RE: DVD writing
by Andrew Youll on Wed 31st Aug 2005 16:51 in reply to "DVD writing"
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2005-06-29

Have you tried Roxio Toast 6 Titanium? I've only just gotten a Firewire DVD-/+RW for my Mini today so havent had time to try it, but I'm pretty sure it would read/write to multi-session DVDs

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RE[2]: DVD writing
by Tyr. on Wed 31st Aug 2005 17:00 in reply to "RE: DVD writing"
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Sorry, here's a Roxio forum post confirming : http://boards.support.roxio.com/roxio/board/message?board.id=000002...
I was sure I read it in their FAQ also but I can't find it. Works fine for multisession CDs though. Hence the claim it can do multisession ;)

Dragon Burn claims to do multi-seesion DVD, but don't bother - it's a piece of crap that doesn't work.

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RE[2]: DVD writing
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 17:02 in reply to "DVD writing"
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My PowerBook has a tilde ~ under the escape key

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RE: DVD writing
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 17:58 in reply to "DVD writing"
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On my keyboard (Belgian layout), I have the pipe symbol at ALT-SHIFT-L and the curly braces at ALT-N.
Sure, I had to look for them too.
It is indeed sad that they are not printed on the keyboard themselves...
But since I know where they're located, it isn't a problem for me anymore.
With the keyboard viewer, you can find more of these "hidden keys".

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RE[2]: DVD writing
by Tyr. on Wed 31st Aug 2005 18:09 in reply to "RE: DVD writing"
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Yeah I eventually found them too, but now I have them mapped to were they should be. This is especially handy if you have to use generic keyboards at work, less confusion.

But I still say it takes a special kind of sadist to 'hide' the pipe on a unix machine and curly braces on an OS whose main programming language is a c variant :-)

On a good note quality and battery time for the bluetooth version is excellent.

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RE: DVD writing
by MysterMask on Wed 31st Aug 2005 18:04 in reply to "DVD writing"
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2005-07-12

until you realise there is no pipe symbol on it, or curly braces or tilde (~).

I don't know azerty keyboards but I would be very suprised if this is true (e. g. on swiss-german QWERTY keyboards, you'll find | on [OPTION]+[7] and ~ on [OPTION]+[n], which is not obvious when you're used to Windows or Unix).

A good way to find symbols on the keyboard is to activate the input menu on the menu bar (in 10.3.9: System Preferences > International > Input Menu > "Show input menu in menu bar" ==> flag of the currently activated keyboard layout appears in the menu bar), then choose "Show keyboard viewer" from the menu unter the flag. Holding special keys like [OPTION] will show you the keyboard layout with special keys pressed.

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RE: DVD writing
by kellym on Wed 31st Aug 2005 18:08 in reply to "DVD writing"
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I have an Apple bluetooth keyboard and not only does it have the pipe symbol, but it also has the curly braces AND tilde. Did you just make all that up?

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RE[2]: DVD writing
by Tyr. on Wed 31st Aug 2005 18:15 in reply to "RE: DVD writing"
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I have an Apple bluetooth keyboard and not only does it have the pipe symbol, but it also has the curly braces AND tilde. Did you just make all that up?

Maybe the Belgians pissed off Steve Jobs or something. And don't make me post a picture of my keyboard ;-) (is yours azerty btw?)

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RE: DVD writing
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 18:48 in reply to "DVD writing"
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All the special characters ARE there, they simply are not printed on the keys.
ALT + 8/9 = { }
ALT + 5/6 = [ ]
ALT + N = ~

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RE: DVD writing
by on Thu 1st Sep 2005 17:30 in reply to "DVD writing"
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Mac OS X provides a "virtual" keyboard on which you'd have seen that a ~ is done with alt-n and | with alt-shift-L

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RE: DVD writing
by Tuishimi on Fri 2nd Sep 2005 15:37 in reply to "DVD writing"
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Mine has the pipe symbol above the backward slash?

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