Linked by Andrew Youll on Wed 31st Aug 2005 16:23 UTC
Windows A sentence of roughly one to three years' jail is expected for a man who sold source code for Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000. A Connecticut man has pleaded guilty in a US federal court to selling Microsoft source code over the Internet.
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What surprises me
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 16:59 UTC

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What surprises me is that people actually paid for that. It was floating around in several p2p networks and I actually had a look at it. Nothing really interesting. Some of the code looked pretty crappy actually. But that's hardly surprising when you consider that many people's first exposure to programming is with jokes like java.

RE: What surprises me
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 17:56 in reply to "What surprises me"
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Java isn’t bad and I don’t think using it or learning it as a first language leads to bad programmers, what leads to bad programmers is the one programming language mindset. There are lots of people that don’t go into programming because they are interested in it or like computers but because they like the pay. They would be just as bad if they learned any other language firs.

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RE: What surprises me
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 18:54 in reply to "What surprises me"
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Sad that so many people think this about java. These kind of sentiments will probably result in its downfall, despite the fact that most people who say it a) don't know how to write efficient java code, b) haven't used java at all, or c) haven't written any java since years ago, when the JVM/JDK still sucked.

For all its (very accurate) history of being pokey and crippled, it's matured into a solid language with a gentle learning curve for beginners. It's performance penalty for most things is now hardly noticable, and its list of capabilities is rapidly filling in.

The problem for beginning java programmers is that most aren't taught about the numerous performance pitfalls. Yes, it's possible to code in java with no notion of memory management... but hardly optimally, which is no different than any other language.

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RE: What surprises me
by on Wed 31st Aug 2005 19:16 in reply to "What surprises me"
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"What surprises me is that people actually paid for that."

As far as I know the only people that paid for it were FBI agents trying to bust him.

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RE: What surprises me
by sappyvcv on Wed 31st Aug 2005 19:41 in reply to "What surprises me"
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2005-07-06

I looked at the code as well, and everything I saw was actually pretty well done. Pretty well commented and organized, very few hacks (the ones I saw were hacks to keep compatibility with popular windows software, which you can't blame them for).

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RE[2]: What surprises me
by corentin on Wed 31st Aug 2005 20:42 in reply to "RE: What surprises me"
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2005-08-08

I agree, most of the code was quite good. Not nearly as good as Solaris code, though ;)

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