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I do realize that I spoke of 7.10 That is because the t60p came out after 6.04. What I am saying is that it really is a pain when you have a hardware vendor such as Dell or IBM and you cannot upgrade the system without having to tweak and install this and that. However in the defense of Linux I recognize that the issue lies with the OEM's and that they could indeed select and configure hardware that has Linux ope n drivers out of the box. Or they could pre-install drivers and the way that they do with Windows.
Who said this, exactly? Anonymous Penguin said "you can run Linux on your existing hardware (normally)", which clearly does not imply that it runs on "just about every piece of hardware", while Bit_Rapist talked only of the x86 hardware he already had.
How do you explain the knee-jerk reply that misrepresented what the two previous posters had said, then?
Appearances can be deceiving. The *smart* thing to do is to check if the hardware is compatible *before* buying it.
Do you realize that you just criticized Linux for not running on all hardware, and then championed OSX? Surely you're aware that OSX runs on *less* hardware than Linux?
Look, all three big OSes have their advantages and disadvantages. These pissing contests are becoming quite tiresome...
What I was saying that you clearly missed was that you can purchase a new system and have to tweak some Linux OS's to make run on that brand new system. I don't criticize OS X for it's lack of hardware support because I know that that is not the goal of OSX. However I do know that when I buy my macbook and go home and boot it up OSX recognizes all my parts in my macbook.
Also FYI constructive criticism is what I was supplying your interpretation was bashing that is why I made it a point to say that I was not bashing it. I use it on servers where I don't user OSX server as for the OS it is top notch once configured and tweaked. That does not remove the fact that in a server environment it took forever to get stable SATA support in major Linux distros when I had new servers already shipping with it. Therefor I prefer the power of unix in OSX on the mac hardware I don't see anything wrong with that.
Yeah, they forget to mention that OSX came pre-installed on their mac. People should really try to compare apples to apples (no pun intended). BTW, have they tried a vanilla install of windows on these machines, I've had issues with the images we have at work, the T60p has a lot of hardware, one of which I think is an ATI video chip.
Otherwise, you will end up installing 1001 distros of Linux and find the one that can work.
By the time you find one Linux distro that works, your hardware is obsolete.
FUD. Pure and utter FUD. You have been called on it.
You are correct that this kind of things happens and it is largely a problem with quality assurance in the various Linux distributions.
Therefore for all the patching and breaking that the various "market leaders" are doing I'd rather have they thoroughly test their creations instead of putting out broken distributions that the end user has to patch and configure before it is usable.
I saw this kind of thing years ago and I'm sad that it's still happening when Linux should be a mature platform and not an everlasting playground anymore to at least cater to the mythical common user (there are developer/geek distributions for that such Debian unstable and Fedora).
A few weeks ago my dual-booted SUSE 10.2 installation even lost its network connection forever and that was the last straw to make me erase it and I will probably never run it again anymore despite its polish, userfriendliness and precompiled packages.
That's why I've been running Slackware for the last few years, one of the few distributions where quality is paramount even if there are not that many applications included. I have scripts and packages for all the things I tend to use and I'm very happy that it stays out of my way.
If this distribution was not around I'd probably be using Solaris or FreeBSD as my main operating system by now or even have (reluctantly ) bought a Mac. Debian and Ubuntu are also pretty nice and stable but not really to my liking. I will install either for anyone that wants any of them, though.





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Here we go again with the you can run Linux on just about every piece of hardware. I am sure you can if you try hard enough, but damn a brand new T60p out the box ubuntu 7.10 fails without tweaking, Fedora 7 fails without google and tweaking, SUSE 10.2 completes but hell things don't work.
I am not bashing Linux but I am sure you can run Linux on a older system but it always appears that you have to run lats years model to install correctly. Anything else you hacve to fiddle sorry after 2200.00 I don't want to fiddle I want to be productive.
Welcome OSX, I will take it and my new Unix 03 certification and run with it.