Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 13:15 UTC, submitted by irbis
KDE Five weeks later than planned, the KDE project has released KDE 4.0 Beta 1. "The KDE Community is happy to announce the immediate availability of the first Beta release for KDE 4.0. This release marks the beginning of the integration process which will bring the powerful new technologies included in the now frozen KDE 4 libraries to the applications." Update: Screenshots.
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oh jeeeez
by zuriel on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 16:28 UTC
zuriel
Member since:
2007-01-29

damn wtf is that lol
I am fanatic KDE user since 3.3 or something, and I love it for good reasons. But whilst I am really looking forward to the kdelibs framework, all the genius APIs getting introduced, the GUI keeps on disappointing me. Not only the lack of contrast (and distinct borders) in the oxygen style, the folder icon (not tilted a bit) and this grouped view in the system settings (and elsewhere, I HATE it.. why not tree views? tree views are *incredible* cool - I loooove tree views.. ... hmmm.---- ... .. hey wait a tree view with no root and only one level of children.. ah nevermind *g) utterly remind me of non-1337 OSs... and aaron seems to really adore his panel mouseover effect, in favor of whihc all others were removed (*grrrr*) ... well good this stuff is all customiz- and hackable.. I'd rather have seen to have KDE go 3117stream instead of lamestream, but hey all users are brainless zombies and therefore each button must AT LEAST take half of the screen..
well seems after my SoC project and end of this semester I need to get a bit of involved in hacking KDE code.. should pose no real difficulty after having finished coding for WINE..
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anyways, good to see this finally happen, keep up the good work boyz!!!

RE: oh jeeeez
by Yagami on Thu 2nd Aug 2007 23:17 in reply to "oh jeeeez"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

i dont really agree with your love for tree views ;) but

you are more than welcome to code for kde !

this is more than a desktop , is a framework! things are being set so that artists , desktop developers, etc all can improve kde into their likings !

i think most ppl only see the flashy button or cool animation, but to me kde is a marvellous architecture and framework to work and develop.

it has almost endeless possibilities ! this is just the beginning ...

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RE[2]: oh jeeeez
by zuriel on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 00:08 in reply to "RE: oh jeeeez"
zuriel Member since:
2007-01-29

I am totally your opinion (except of the tree view thingie ;) KDE4 is the greatest application framework of all times, on all areas. But the GUI - those people who happen to be the driving power behind the development at the moment, they design stuff for the 'normal' brain-depraved user. But I love KDE as a desktop which has increased my efficiency greatly in the past (the few weeks after switching from XP I constantly went '*wooow* it's that sane?!'). I can use power features and I do want an advanced interface with as many configurable settings as possible - quite contrary to the current development mantra to 'simplify' stuff. And yes, stuff does even get removed during that process. I'd love to implement my vision of KDE myself, but unfortunately there are not only time constraints (student of engineering) but also lack of QT/KDE coding skills, the first being the much bigger one. So instead of taking stuff into the "right" direction myself, that's why I rather keep up voicing my opinion. But I guess if all goes well I'll be on board for KDE4.1 and contribute code instead of cheap talk ;)

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RE: oh jeeeez
by Soulbender on Fri 3rd Aug 2007 05:22 in reply to "oh jeeeez"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"tree views are *incredible* cool - I loooove tree views"

I would seem the KDE people don't share your love for tree views.

"utterly remind me of non-1337 OSs"

Thank god for that.

"I'd rather have seen to have KDE go 3117stream instead of lamestream"

You seem to confuse 3117 with cool when in fact 3117 is incredibly lame.

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