Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 11th Jul 2005 17:32 UTC
Windows Mike Nash, Microsoft's security business and technology unit corporate vice president, has said Longhorn would accord end-users certain rights and privileges apparently ending the concept that everyone using their PC is also the PC's administrator. Update: More on new Longhorn features here.
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RE[2]: Wow
by orestes on Mon 11th Jul 2005 17:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow"
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2005-07-06

But will it be implemented properly? What's to stop Joe User from going back to the same bad habits Microsoft has helped to create over the past 20 years? Will it refuse to take bad passwords or disallow administrator login completely? Will it stop the user from simply disabling it because the logins annoy them?

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RE[3]: Wow
by on Mon 11th Jul 2005 18:12 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow"
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The problem, as I didn't describe so well with my haleluya post is that on your standerd windows you have just two default options for users Administrator or Guest. There is no normall user type. This suckes shit. You can't do anything under guest mode so most user use administor (this is also the default). On Windows 2003 there is a normall user, and it's posible to have one based on how windows dose its user privileges, but not having a normall user on the default install of you desktop OS is one of the dumbest things they have done to date. I hope they don't top it.

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RE[4]: Wow
by MrEcho on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
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Yes there is a "norm" user account
groups: users

but the only way to do it is though mmc.

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RE[4]: Wow
by CPUGuy on Mon 11th Jul 2005 22:15 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
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There is also the power user level.

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RE[3]: Wow
by crystalattice on Mon 11th Jul 2005 18:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow"
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2005-07-06

Some people will be upset because they have to change their ways. They have come to expect that things will work all the time (within reason) but now they will be expected to contact the admin when they want changes. Granted, I'm all for that and use it already on my Linux and Mac systems, but I never think about it when using my XP system.

I hope that some things will be allowed by default, such as personal settings like screen resolution and wallpaper. Oh, and important things like defrag and disk check. Some of the places I've worked have blocked users from all useful features; one system I used hadn't been defragged for nearly 5 years.

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RE[4]: Wow
by on Mon 11th Jul 2005 21:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
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"Some people will be upset because they have to change their ways."

Yep. I would probably say "most" if not all of them are going to be pissed. Oh well. This should have been started decades ago.

Guess this hard-core Linux user will be repairing and rebuilding more M$ boxes into the near furture.

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RE[4]: Wow
by on Mon 11th Jul 2005 23:42 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow"
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changing those personal settings are already possible for non-administrators in Windows.... If you used a system where you were unable to do it, it's because further restrictions were placed on your account.

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RE[3]: Wow
by ma_d on Mon 11th Jul 2005 18:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow"
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2005-06-29

They're going to copy Mac and Sudo; it's blatantly obvious to me. But they'll call it innovation, and everyone but their users will laugh.

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