Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Aug 2007 18:15 UTC
Openbox 3.4.4 has been released. "Openbox is a minimalistic, highly configurable, next generation window manager with extensive standards support. Openbox lets you bring the latest applications outside of a full desktop environment. Most modern applications have been written with GNOME and KDE in mind. With support for the latest freedesktop.org standards, as well as careful adherence to previous standards, Openbox provides an environment where applications work the way they were designed to."
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Why do we need to know every single release of Openbox? Is it that important?
Yes.
Long answer: Linux has taken up much of the alternative operating system space. Since news regarding really alternative operating systems is much sparser today than it was when OSNews started, we need to adapt to fill that void. Reporting on lesser known window managers and desktop environments for X takes that role.
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Why do we need to know every single release of Openbox? Is it that important?
OpenBox, as with the *Box's in general (black, flux), offers a nice WM for older or memory-short machines. I run it on my PI/PII laptops. It really is not a competitor to the native WM's that come with the Gnome or Kde Desktops. I think it is better as a lightweight WM by itself. I also like to use one of the *Box's with VNCServer - I don't want Gnome or Kde firing up remotely! One of the lightweight WM's is better suited for this purpose.
As for the NEVER ENDING comment we hear about "Why do you report on XYZ at OSNews?", please let it go everybody. If you don't want to read a particular article, most keyboards have PageUp and PageDown buttons on them. Some of these fancy new mice even have scroll wheels! Use them.
[EDIT] [OT] - I hope the poor guy who got a -500 for his first post doesn't give up! Hang in there!
Edited 2007-08-06 20:38
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I have tried it with Gnome, and I don't see any benefit over Gnome's native windowmanager. If anyone cares to explain
It is meant as a replacement for GNOME or KDE on older machines which don't have the resources. Typically it is meant for a machine that originally came with Windows 95 or Windows 98 installed.
There are a few lightweight desktops built around lightweight window managers:
http://lxde.sourceforge.net/
http://www.icewm.org/
Openbox is typically used for "ligtweight spin-off" types of distributions:
http://tinyme.mypclinuxos.com/
http://www.mypclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;i...
http://www.mypclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;i...
(I am waiting for test 5 of Tinyme myself to put on an old IBM T20 laptop I have).
I hope this helps.
Another one: http://grafpup.org/
Edited 2007-08-07 02:15
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deb2006 said: "2. I have tried it with Gnome, and I don't see any benefit..."
Exactly my experience with all the *boxes: no benefit, didn't feel any lightness etc. If you wanna fly use WMI or DWM.
Exactly my experience with all the *boxes: no benefit, didn't feel any lightness etc. If you wanna fly use WMI or DWM.
It is not the Openbox WM (or even GNOME's WM metacity) that is the problem, it is the GNOME desktop itself.
If you want to fly (even on old hardware), then [ (Openbox or metacity or sawfish or xfwm4) + (fbpanel or lxpanel) + (rox filer or pcmanfm) ] is a perfectly acceptable approach to a lightweight desktop.
Once again, it was not Openbox that caused the lack of benefit that deb2006 reported, it was the "tried it with Gnome" bit that caused the lack of benefit. deb2006 did not replace the resource-hog software (Gnome desktop) that was causing the sluggishness.
Replacing Gnome's metacity WM with Openbox WM, or even for that matter with WMI or DWM indeed won't have any benefit.
Edited 2007-08-07 10:54
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1. Why do we need to know every single release of Openbox? Is it that important?
2. I have tried it with Gnome, and I don't see any benefit over Gnome's native windowmanager. If anyone cares to explain ... (On the contrary, Gnome became unstable: I suddenly wasn't able to kill windows anymore; some windows appeared without a frame etc. [latest & greatest Debian Etch with native deb packages])