Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Aug 2007 18:02 UTC
Apple Apple has released new iMacs, with a new interior (up to 2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo) as well as new exterior (thinner, with a black back, as well as black 'eyeliner' around the screen), including a new keyboard, during a press event in Cupertino today. Apple also released new version of its iLife and iWork suites. iLife has seen updates on all its applications, while iWork has also received a new spreadsheet application called Numbers. Update: The Mac Mini has been updated too.
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MrSidecar
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2007-02-13

The keyboard seems, to me, a huge step forward in terms of everyday value. What Do I mean? Well, work on the white Apple Keyboard for 3 years and see for yourself. Apart from the usual hand-grease thatīs of course also going to show up on the new modelīs keys (although I figure itīs easier to wipe it off since the keys are not as high and the space between them is not as deep), thereīs flocks of dust gathering in the case, and since the case is so beautifully transparent, one can clearly see the dirt piling up inside. Plus, it contrasts so well on white... I took the keys off my Apple Keyboard to get it clean twice in 3 years, and that certainly is not going to happen on the new keyboard. As for the membrane issue one comment brought up here: I might be totally wrong, but werenīt all Apple keyboards since the fantastic beige Pro model (ADB Apple Extended Keyboard II, that one was amazing and definately was NOT membrane) membrane ones? And arenīt most of them still working, and mor or less fine to type on? I think the membrane/switch controversy is overrated. Correct me if Iīm wrong.

Edited 2007-08-08 09:27

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Gryzor Member since:
2005-07-03

Having Apple, IBM, DELL, and many other old and new keyboards, I gotta say that the Apple Keyboard is the worst keyboard I have ever used. Nice design, small, good key placement, etc. But the keys Get STUCK!!! (it happens always, it's not dirty, it's not that it's old!) It's just bad design.

I happens to many people. At least the new one doesn't seem to suffer from that.

A pity that they made the BlueTooth version, smaller. That should be an option in my opninion. I use BlueTooth, but I NEED/LIKE the numeric keypad and the "normal" keyboard size. If I wanted to use a "small" keyboard, I'd rather use the MacBook Pro keyboard directly.

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alcibiades Member since:
2005-10-12

werenīt all Apple keyboards since the fantastic beige Pro model (ADB Apple Extended Keyboard II, that one was amazing and definately was NOT membrane) membrane ones? And arenīt most of them still working, and mor or less fine to type on? I think the membrane/switch controversy is overrated.

Well, investigate, and you may come to feel you are wrong.

The way to find out is get a mechanical switch keyboard and type on it a lot. Also get a decent OEM membrane keyboard for under $10 and type on it a lot. Then compare both to the Apple keyboards. The old Apple Extended keyboards are good examples of the mechanical switch type. Not the Extended Keyboard II, which was horrible junk.

A modern version can be got from:

http://matias.ca/tactilepro/

and with usb, so you don't have to use a Griffin. Also, unless the old Extended is your own, its very hard to be sure what you are getting, buying used from ebay. The tactile pro is probably a better bet.

If you do this (I have, but not with the tactile pro, with Apple and IBM mechanicals) you'll find that the difference between Apple membrane keyboards and decent OEM membranes is first the looks, and second the price. But they are no better than any other membrane to type on. However, there is no comparison with the mechanical switch type. Another simple test you can make is if you know a secretary who has done a great deal of typing - someone who works in a law office is a good example. Have her test and get a view.

My experience is first personal: the mechanical is far less tiring and far less liable to give RSI. And second anecdotal - I've shown mechanical ones to two or three regular heavy typists. It only takes a few minutes for them to want them.

So, if you're buying a keyboard for $50+, make sure its mechanical. Or, make sure you know you are buying for appearance not typing. Which may be perfectly legitimate in some cases. However no-one should make the mistake of looking at the new Apple keyboard and thinking that what they are looking at is superb design for typing. If its membrane, that's not what you're getting. You are getting a reasonable quality OEM keyboard wrapped up very attractively and sold for a healthy markup over what it would cost you in a more conventional form factor.

Nothing wrong with it, if you know what you are getting and that's what you want.

Its not surprising by the way that they carry on working. Standard Compaq or Dell membrane keyboards from Win95 days work perfectly well still. They were about the same quality or better than the Extended II, contrary to the marketing myth. But they are not the equal of a proper mechanical spring keyboard. Its not about durability. Its about typing.

Edited 2007-08-08 17:31

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MrSidecar Member since:
2007-02-13

Thanks for the info on this. However, I meant the ADB Ext Keyboard I (the M0115 type). I had that one with my first mac, a beige G3 desktop. Those were the days... btw, the matias tactile pro looks great, seems very cool, but good heavens, $150 for a keyboard!

Edited 2007-08-08 21:38

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