Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Aug 2007 15:38 UTC, submitted by anonymous
X11, Window Managers "This is the first development release of Compiz Fusion, the result of more than six months of work and polish. Compiz Fusion is the result of a merge between the Compiz community plugin set 'Compiz Extras' and the parts of the Beryl project that are independent of the window manager core. The two communities have re-united to create a user experience for Linux that rivals anything available on other platforms."
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RE: Bit disappointing
by butters on Mon 13th Aug 2007 22:27 UTC in reply to "Bit disappointing"
butters
Member since:
2005-07-08

I would have thought you a KDE user. I think we'll have to wait for KDE4 for compositing window management done right. It's unrealistic to expect an immature window manager to exhibit the polish of KWin or Metacity.

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RE[2]: Bit disappointing
by SlackerJack on Mon 13th Aug 2007 22:37 in reply to "RE: Bit disappointing"
SlackerJack Member since:
2005-11-12

DavidR is nether a KDE dev or GNOME dev, getting the code base right and working rather than WM preferences is more important if you ask me.

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RE[2]: Bit disappointing
by AdamW on Mon 13th Aug 2007 22:41 in reply to "RE: Bit disappointing"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

No, I'm a GNOME user.

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RE[2]: Bit disappointing
by AdamW on Mon 13th Aug 2007 22:42 in reply to "RE: Bit disappointing"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

How long are you letting them get away with that excuse? To my mind the "it's immature!" defence runs out after six months.

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RE[3]: Bit disappointing
by butters on Tue 14th Aug 2007 00:01 in reply to "RE[2]: Bit disappointing"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

Maturity is relative. Metacity and KWin will always be more mature than Compiz, although the gap will become insignificant over time. Six months isn't a very long time, even in the free software community, and expectations are high. Most desktop Linux users don't run Compiz yet, so there's still a lot of bugs to be shaken out.

BTW, I inferred KDE from your association with Mandriva.

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RE[3]: Bit disappointing
by apoclypse on Tue 14th Aug 2007 00:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Bit disappointing"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

The community is immature. A lot of the beryl team focused more on eye candy than actual functionality with a few exceptions. The compiz team didn't have the sheer number of devs that beryl had and so a lot of things are more conservative. I personally don't see a big difference between compiz and metacity, or kwin for that matter. One could argue that Kwin will have an immature compositing backend, which is obvious even now as a lot of effects are buggy and definitely need work. A year from now it might be a different story, the same can be said about compiz. A lot of effects that were shown at the Novell thingy haven't been implemented yet (such as multiple wallpapers for each desktop, and this beautiful zoom plugin whic kde has copied in KDE4). I really don't see any reason that metacity should get any compositing features, compiz is pretty good at what it does and all it really needs is better handling of windows. I personally think metacity is busted anyway. When I close an application at full screen it opens at full screen and won't let you minimize it because the window opens to take up all of the desktop. You have to minimize it then resixe it to a smaller size that won't take up all your screen realestate. Maybe it's an option but it seems stupid to me. Compiz doesn't do this at all. The only reason I don;t use compiz all the time is because aiglx and the oss ati drivers have issues with video playing, Where the video is just a solid color and you have to resize the window to get it to show the video. It's freaking annoying.

Edited 2007-08-14 00:11

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