Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Aug 2007 21:38 UTC, submitted by flanque
Microsoft has had to create a new build of Windows XP Professional for computer makers because the six-year-old operating system's continued popularity has nearly exhausted the supply of product activation keys. The new build, dubbed SP2c, includes no fixes or feature changes, but was created simply to address the shrinking pool of product keys. XP Pro SP2c, which has been released to manufacturing, will be made available to OEMs and system builders next month, said Microsoft.
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Member since:2005-07-06
You're blind. I do use Linux (Mint Linux atm). But I think the Windows platform is more appealing to me.
Windows NT design is NOT bad. Example. On Linux, everyone use X most of the time nowaday. If X crashes, it's like the whole OS crashes right? They lose all their work anyway. Sure, we can argue that system services are unaffected but anyway, since we are talking about desktops, it doesn't matter much. And anyway, XP never blue screens unless you are using defective device drivers. Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process.
Windows NT design is NOT bad. Example. On Linux, everyone use X most of the time nowaday. If X crashes, it's like the whole OS crashes right? They lose all their work anyway. Sure, we can argue that system services are unaffected but anyway, since we are talking about desktops, it doesn't matter much. And anyway, XP never blue screens unless you are using defective device drivers. Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process.
Pardon? I like the fact that only X dies rather than the whole thing going up in a puff of smoke. I like the idea that my whole computer doesn't spontaneously reboot resulting in the nervous nelly's over whether the registry or the file system itself has been screwed up in the process.
Then you say, "Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process." - takes advantage of what? you've said "Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process." and yet you've never actually *SAID* what Windows has which X fails to take advantage of.
On Windows, you use the GUI all the time too. It makes sense to have parts of the GUI API in ring0: the system is much more responsitive. That's why I say NT isn't badly designed: the design of NT tries to maximize the user experience, not to follow some ideological concepts (see GNU Hurd).
Pardon- what has GNU Hurd have to do with the price of fish? how is it 'more responsive'? I'm sitting here with Solaris which uses the latest Xorg - using the latest and greatest Nvidia drivers, and interesting enough, I find it alot more responsive than Windows Vista (when I ran it on this machine) under a heavy load.
Pulling things out of the air proves nothing, and repeating a lie multiple times doesn't spontaneously turn it from an exaggeration into an unquestionable truth.
And the OS itself isn't the only appealing thing. Honestly, I much prefer Visual Studio 2005/2008b2 with the .NET framework over Eclipse and Java. I think the Microsoft alternative increases my productivity alot and the end result is better/faster software. No one can argue that .NET is bad design: it must be the best damn API ever made.
Its a good design - but it is a Microsoft design for a Windows problem. The fact is, we in the *NIX world don't need it because it isn't as though our native API's are so notoriously broken that a re-invention is required.
Also, have you used Netbeans? When Netbeans 6.0 is released, grab a book, read it, then use it. Unlike Microsofts Visual Studio, Netbeans is opensource, if you want to add features, unlike Microsoft, you're not going to get sued as with the case of the guy who created a plugin - a popular one at that, then threatened legal action recently.
And of course, like I said in my first post: Windows has the most software. If you are using something on your Linux box or on your Mac to do some task X, you sure will find a Windows application to do task X which is more more adavanced than the one you're using right now (think about all cd/dvd drive emus (DTools), advanced cd/dvd burning apps (CloneCD, Alcohol), etc).
Sorry, I like using UNIX, I like the feel of UNIX, I like how things are run and organise. For Microsoft to win me over as a customer it would involve trading their operating system, embracing the OpenSolaris core and building a nice interface ontop, then I might consider moving.
Member since:2006-09-19
You're blind. I do use Linux (Mint Linux atm). But I think the Windows platform is more appealing to me.
Windows NT design is NOT bad. Example. On Linux, everyone use X most of the time nowaday. If X crashes, it's like the whole OS crashes right? They lose all their work anyway. Sure, we can argue that system services are unaffected but anyway, since we are talking about desktops, it doesn't matter much. And anyway, XP never blue screens unless you are using defective device drivers. Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process.
On Windows, you use the GUI all the time too. It makes sense to have parts of the GUI API in ring0: the system is much more responsitive. That's why I say NT isn't badly designed: the design of NT tries to maximize the user experience, not to follow some ideological concepts (see GNU Hurd).
And the OS itself isn't the only appealing thing. Honestly, I much prefer Visual Studio 2005/2008b2 with the .NET framework over Eclipse and Java. I think the Microsoft alternative increases my productivity alot and the end result is better/faster software. No one can argue that .NET is bad design: it must be the best damn API ever made.
And of course, like I said in my first post: Windows has the most software. If you are using something on your Linux box or on your Mac to do some task X, you sure will find a Windows application to do task X which is more more adavanced than the one you're using right now (think about all cd/dvd drive emus (DTools), advanced cd/dvd burning apps (CloneCD, Alcohol), etc).
Windows NT design is NOT bad. Example. On Linux, everyone use X most of the time nowaday. If X crashes, it's like the whole OS crashes right? They lose all their work anyway. Sure, we can argue that system services are unaffected but anyway, since we are talking about desktops, it doesn't matter much. And anyway, XP never blue screens unless you are using defective device drivers. Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process.
On Windows, you use the GUI all the time too. It makes sense to have parts of the GUI API in ring0: the system is much more responsitive. That's why I say NT isn't badly designed: the design of NT tries to maximize the user experience, not to follow some ideological concepts (see GNU Hurd).
And the OS itself isn't the only appealing thing. Honestly, I much prefer Visual Studio 2005/2008b2 with the .NET framework over Eclipse and Java. I think the Microsoft alternative increases my productivity alot and the end result is better/faster software. No one can argue that .NET is bad design: it must be the best damn API ever made.
And of course, like I said in my first post: Windows has the most software. If you are using something on your Linux box or on your Mac to do some task X, you sure will find a Windows application to do task X which is more more adavanced than the one you're using right now (think about all cd/dvd drive emus (DTools), advanced cd/dvd burning apps (CloneCD, Alcohol), etc).
Lol.
Oh boy, you just opened a can of warms.
Good to hear you're trying Linux.
I'll forgo arguing your post.
Let's just say that people that use their computers for work don't need crap like Clonecd or Alcohol - garbage software that installs nasty drivers.
Edited 2007-08-14 14:40
Member since:2006-02-05
No one can argue that .NET is bad design: it must be the best damn API ever made
I would go so far as to say it is the best thing to ever come out of microsoft.
I was a diehard j2ee dev for years, and used to laugh at the poor schmucks who had to use asp classic. Now i'm freelance and using asp.net, and my friends all laugh at me because i can't stop saying good things about it.
And of course, like I said in my first post: Windows has the most software. If you are using something on your Linux box or on your Mac to do some task X, you sure will find a Windows application to do task X which is more more adavanced than the one you're using right now (think about all cd/dvd drive emus (DTools), advanced cd/dvd burning apps (CloneCD, Alcohol), etc).
If you go past simple utility stuff, there is very little on linux that is better then what is on windows (outside of scientific apps, many of which are unix only). Even compared to other UNIXs, linux isnt exactly top drawer. The appeal of linux is that it is Good Enough and costs nothing.
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2005-07-08
I don't understand why you got score of 12 because you're more ignorant than a door knob (I'd say dumn but that might sound ofensive).
Windows (in general all versions) is a showcase of bad software design.
You don't know what fast and multiuser is until you use Linux or *nix.
The only part you got right is the one with monopoly in it.
You're blind. I do use Linux (Mint Linux atm). But I think the Windows platform is more appealing to me.
Windows NT design is NOT bad. Example. On Linux, everyone use X most of the time nowaday. If X crashes, it's like the whole OS crashes right? They lose all their work anyway. Sure, we can argue that system services are unaffected but anyway, since we are talking about desktops, it doesn't matter much. And anyway, XP never blue screens unless you are using defective device drivers. Sadly, X doesn't take advantage of this: X is just another process.
On Windows, you use the GUI all the time too. It makes sense to have parts of the GUI API in ring0: the system is much more responsitive. That's why I say NT isn't badly designed: the design of NT tries to maximize the user experience, not to follow some ideological concepts (see GNU Hurd).
And the OS itself isn't the only appealing thing. Honestly, I much prefer Visual Studio 2005/2008b2 with the .NET framework over Eclipse and Java. I think the Microsoft alternative increases my productivity alot and the end result is better/faster software. No one can argue that .NET is bad design: it must be the best damn API ever made.
And of course, like I said in my first post: Windows has the most software. If you are using something on your Linux box or on your Mac to do some task X, you sure will find a Windows application to do task X which is more more adavanced than the one you're using right now (think about all cd/dvd drive emus (DTools), advanced cd/dvd burning apps (CloneCD, Alcohol), etc).