Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Aug 2007 17:45 UTC, submitted by WillM
Microsoft "Microsoft, apparently, is helping the folks at Mono to port Silverlight to Linux. This is good news, as the primary fear I've heard from developers is that Silverlight will be locked to Microsoft platforms and products. Microsoft has already committed to supporting Silverlight cross-browser on Windows, and has a version that runs on Mac OS X (which is even available from the Apple web site). The last step is Linux, and Microsoft is working with Novell and Mono to make this happen."
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kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

Excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong (JavaFX is like, the most unreported upcoming technology ever), but isn't JavaFX closer to Adobe's Apollo framework? A rich web app for the desktop.


You'll find that Apollo is to Flash what XML is to Adobe PDF; its fixing up the limitations within Flash. As much as I would like to see Apollo succeed, I am not convinced until Adobe start actually treating *NIX customers (Solaris and Linux) like first class citizens.

Silverlight addresses problems which currently exist, such as as cool as AJAX is, it is not enough, and that while flash is fantastic at animations and content delivery, it is extremely kludgy to use for an application.


Apollo however has one added bonus; it can be a stand alone application outside of a web browser; so it actually can act as a complete tool to write applications for rather than just small applications. In an ideal world Adobe would make Apollo players for Linux, MacOS X, Windows, Solaris and *BSD; they would port all their applications to Apollo and let the marketplace of operating systems compete based on which is superior rather than which has the applications available on it.

As for the VM, it is already on all XP SP2 and Vista boxes, which together already account for almost 85% of the desktop market. Silverlight itself weighs in at 1.3megs (at least on windows). The JRE on the other hand weighs in at 7.1 megs, and does not come preinstalled on windows boxes unless the OEM installs it.


True, and Mono works with Solaris along with Linux and FreeBSD. If Microsoft concerntrate on the services they can provide rather than whether it is being run on a Windows platform - I think they would find there will be quite a number of non-Windows users happy to pay for those Microsoft services. Unfortunately, however, Microsoft does have a habit of being an asshole when it comes to the success of their technologies on another platform.

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

True, and Mono works with Solaris along with Linux and FreeBSD. If Microsoft concerntrate on the services they can provide rather than whether it is being run on a Windows platform - I think they would find there will be quite a number of non-Windows users happy to pay for those Microsoft services. Unfortunately, however, Microsoft does have a habit of being an asshole when it comes to the success of their technologies on another platform.


How is microsoft not providing services on other platforms? They are developing a mac port themselves, and working with novell for a linux port.

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kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

How is microsoft not providing services on other platforms? They are developing a mac port themselves, and working with novell for a linux port.


By virtue of extending Silverlight in the future and not adequately working with partners to provide the necessary information to remain compatible. A prime example would be the SMB changes recently in Windows and their refusal to disclose the changes as to allow compatibility.

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jayson.knight Member since:
2005-07-06

"Apollo however has one added bonus; it can be a stand alone application outside of a web browser; so it actually can act as a complete tool to write applications for rather than just small applications."

There is nothing I've read which says that a web browser is the only way to host a Silverlight application, though by hosting it in a browser, you get the additional security sandboxing.

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