Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 14th Aug 2007 17:45 UTC, submitted by WillM
"Microsoft, apparently, is helping the folks at Mono to port Silverlight to Linux. This is good news, as the primary fear I've heard from developers is that Silverlight will be locked to Microsoft platforms and products. Microsoft has already committed to supporting Silverlight cross-browser on Windows, and has a version that runs on Mac OS X (which is even available from the Apple web site). The last step is Linux, and Microsoft is working with Novell and Mono to make this happen."
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Member since:2005-07-06
Rubbish. People would be absolutely fine with royalty free ogg vorbis if they thought their system had it.
Hence the reason it will be supported in Moonlight (Novells Silverlight).
What actually happens if you try to play an ogg vorbis file on a default-install Windows system is that Windows doesn't even try to get a codec (as it does for other formats) but rather it shows a message that ogg vorbis isn't supported.
If you read that message casually, you might be lead to believe that Windows software actually couldn't support that format, rather than the actual truth, which is that Microsoft doesn't want you to use it (lest you become less tied to Windows).
If you read that message casually, you might be lead to believe that Windows software actually couldn't support that format, rather than the actual truth, which is that Microsoft doesn't want you to use it (lest you become less tied to Windows).
Unfortunately that is one problem, another problem is the lack of marketing of OGG/Vorbis and lack of distribution advocacy makes it not as visible as popular formats as WMA/MP3/MP4. If every OEM machine had OGG/Vorbis pre-loaded along with media players visibly advocating the format along with money by software distributors (like Red Hat, Novell, Sun) actually funding futher development and improvements - things would change.
You can in fact get an ogg vorbis codec for Windows.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Vorbis_Ogg_ACM.htm
You can in fact get a whole free (as in freedom) media player for Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
... which will even play DVDs for you:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
(now THAT is a cross-platform application)
... but Microsoft don't want you to have such freedom, so you better not use it, hey fanboi.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Vorbis_Ogg_ACM.htm
You can in fact get a whole free (as in freedom) media player for Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
... which will even play DVDs for you:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
(now THAT is a cross-platform application)
... but Microsoft don't want you to have such freedom, so you better not use it, hey fanboi.
'fanboi' - I wish you truly knew what boi actaully means, in terms of its origin....
Regarding the above, they're the vestiges of Geekdom - unless they're told about it by a friend its very unlikely that they'll know about VLC. Thats the unfortunate reality.
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2007-02-17
Rubbish. People would be absolutely fine with royalty free ogg vorbis if they thought their system had it.
What actually happens if you try to play an ogg vorbis file on a default-install Windows system is that Windows doesn't even try to get a codec (as it does for other formats) but rather it shows a message that ogg vorbis isn't supported.
If you read that message casually, you might be lead to believe that Windows software actually couldn't support that format, rather than the actual truth, which is that Microsoft doesn't want you to use it (lest you become less tied to Windows).
You can in fact get an ogg vorbis codec for Windows.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Vorbis_Ogg_ACM.htm
You can in fact get a whole free (as in freedom) media player for Windows.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
... which will even play DVDs for you:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
(now THAT is a cross-platform application)
... but Microsoft don't want you to have such freedom, so you better not use it, hey fanboi.
Edited 2007-08-15 10:28