Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 15th Aug 2007 21:37 UTC
Novell and Ximian In the wake of last week's ruling that Novell, and not SCO, controls the copyrights covering UNIX, Novell is reassuring Unix users that it has no plans to follow in SCO's footsteps. Given that the company is no longer in the business of selling UNIX, it has no reason to pursue any copyright claims.
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Novell will at least threaten to sue
by sbergman27 on Wed 15th Aug 2007 22:11 UTC
sbergman27
Member since:
2005-07-24

Not now, of course. But when they are in dire straights, they will at least threaten it.

They are not winning their battle with Microsoft. And when push comes to shove, and after Hovsepian has been ousted, they will be casting about to make the most of their assets. The stockholders, the cold and uncaring bastards that they are, will demand it.

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g2devi Member since:
2005-07-09

That's the tricky part of the phrase "no plans to sue". "No plans to sue" means, "I don't think we will, but you never know the future....".

Not very confidence building, is it?

If Novell really means, "we will never sue" they should outright say that or not say anything at all since no-one expected them to sue (even if they had a case, which they know they don't, suing would terminate their GPLv2 license and thus kill SUSE). If they wanted good PR, they might even donate any copyrights they have to Unix to the Linux Foundation (not that it means anything since Caldera already did so and Linux is IP clean, but it would still be good PR).

I get the impression that Novell is lead by people who are either not very bright (beating Inspector Clouseau in clumsiness) or people who are very sly and two-faced. In either case, it's important to be wary since even a good natured fool can unintentially do harm.

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jakesdad Member since:
2005-12-28

Why do you automatically assume they would sue linux users? Linux is not unix,,, remember? They are reassuring Unix users....

But why wouldn't they sue, lets say, SCO for using unix parts without permission, in openserver or unixware.

Novell distributes a Linux distro... They arent going to sue linux users, the software is already GPL'd. Linux doesnt have anything to worry about... Its the Unix vendors that should make sure their ducks are in a row.

Edited 2007-08-15 23:22

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

If Novell really means, "we will never sue" they should outright say that or not say anything at all since no-one expected them to sue (even if they had a case, which they know they don't, suing would terminate their GPLv2 license and thus kill SUSE). If they wanted good PR, they might even donate any copyrights they have to Unix to the Linux Foundation (not that it means anything since Caldera already did so and Linux is IP clean, but it would still be good PR).


Sigh!

(1) Linux is not a copy of Unix, it is at best a "work-alike", a "re-implementation". It wouldn't do anything for Linux if Novell donated Unix copyrights, because Linux is not a copy of Unix.

(2) Novell have already issued everyone who wants it a license to use SuSe Linux. It is called the GPL. It is not revokable.

(3) Novell's logo appears here:
http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/about_members.php
and here:
http://www.patent-commons.org/
... so Novell have already donated their patents to Linux.

What more do you want?

Novell is not going to sue Linux users. That would amount to suing your own customers. Only SCOG is insane enough to do that.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

Thatnks for that wonderfully optimistic view of things. Novell is one company that hasn't really acted that way in the past, but you are sure they'll do it in the future.

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sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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Novell is one company that hasn't really acted that way in the past, but you are sure they'll do it in the future.
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I suspect so, yes. They've not done anything to make me think that they will *not* take the short-sighted view, as most corps seem to do when things get tough. And my crystal ball shows things getting very tough, indeed, for Novell in the future.

Edited 2007-08-15 23:47

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watchingeyes Member since:
2007-05-04

Well, considering Novell would have no rights to demand royalties due to their ongoing distribution of Linux under the GPL, thus relinquishing any copyright claims they could have against it, about all they would accomplish is landing themselves in the same mess SCO is in currently.

If Novell's shareholders really demand for that to happen, they're about as stupid as the people who invested in SCO without doing even the most basic level of research re: their claims.

I simply don't see it happening. SCO was a rare case of a company launching a blitzkrieg with a butter knife (and a brittle one that was about to snap at that)....most business people are not that stupid.

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I simply don't see it happening. SCO was a rare case of a company launching a blitzkrieg with a butter knife (and a brittle one that was about to snap at that)....most business people are not that stupid.

Then how do you explain the massive gains SCO made when they made the announcement that they were suing IBM?

Either they ARE that stupid, or, more likely, their greed dwarfs their intelligence.

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