Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Aug 2007 06:08 UTC, submitted by Kaj de Vos
Syllable, AtheOS Kelly Wilson ported the Gnash Flash player clone to Syllable [screenshot], enabling the playing of Adobe Flash content. It uses the Boost C++ libraries, the SDL and Anti-Grain Geometry libraries for graphics rendering and FFMPEG for multimedia decoding. Work on the player is continuing to add the FreeType library and make the player native to Syllable, so it can be integrated in the web browser. Also, on some Adobe Flash news, an upcoming update will be supporting native h.264 videos, HE-AAC audio support, as well as hardware accelerated, multi-core enhanced full screen video playback.
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gnash & flash video...
by hobgoblin on Tue 21st Aug 2007 08:32 UTC
hobgoblin
Member since:
2005-07-06

does it work? as in, can one watch youtube and similar using gnash?

thats about the only real use for flash that i can see right now, and if they put native ogg support into the next HTML spec, even that will be a waste.

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RE: gnash & flash video...
by spikeb on Tue 21st Aug 2007 08:52 in reply to "gnash & flash video..."
spikeb Member since:
2006-01-18

it works with youtube nowadays, yes.

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RE[2]: gnash & flash video...
by hobgoblin on Tue 21st Aug 2007 09:05 in reply to "RE: gnash & flash video..."
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

maybe ill look into installing it then.

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RE: gnash & flash video...
by mmu_man on Tue 21st Aug 2007 13:30 in reply to "gnash & flash video..."
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2006-09-30

It's been there for years. That's what the OBJECT tag is for. It's always been (or embed but it's unofficial). There is absolutely *no* reason to use flash to play a video. Except braindeadness.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/objects.html

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RE[2]: gnash & flash video...
by hobgoblin on Tue 21st Aug 2007 13:55 in reply to "RE: gnash & flash video..."
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

im guessing there problem with those is that they dont define a set codec. as in, you can toss in any kind of object, but unless the browser, or a plugin, understands the kind of object its dealing with, its useless.

http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#video

this is whats being suggested for html5.

hell, isnt flash just another use of the object tag?

Edited 2007-08-21 13:56

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RE[2]: gnash & flash video...
by vege on Tue 21st Aug 2007 15:03 in reply to "RE: gnash & flash video..."
vege Member since:
2006-04-07

There is absolutely *no* reason to use flash to play a video. Except braindeadness.


OR if you want your visitors to have the same control interface for viewing/listening the media.

Braindeadness is a *bit* strong.

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RE[2]: gnash & flash video...
by snozzberry on Tue 21st Aug 2007 23:24 in reply to "RE: gnash & flash video..."
snozzberry Member since:
2005-11-14

If the coding was referred to as HMML (HyperMedia), I'd be inclined to agree with you.

Unfortunately it's HTML, and the point of XHTML was to reinforce the point that HTML is a document language, not an interactive multimedia engine. The entire point of deprecating all rectangular nontextual elements (even IMAGE) in favor of OBJECT was to keep HTML from being needlessly corrupted by technology-based elements whose purpose and definitions were likely to be corporately controlled and highly mutable over time.

The consequences of this austerity measure are as follows:
1. The W3C is not in the position of mandating minimum codec requirements as the situation is not directly comparable to mandating alpha-enabled PNG support.
2. Content providers recognize that codecs tether users to players, providers to expensive server software, and OSS solutions like OGG offer no content protection which like it or not is a dealbreaker.
3. Macromedia provided a platform-neutral VM with its own server technology, affordable authoring tools, and noncomplex content protection (albeit crackable).

I work in this field for a university. I'd prefer everyone stuck with Real, myself, but Macromedia's solution was the least painful for end users, and they drive standards adoption as much as we try to push it.

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RE: gnash & flash video...
by Xaero_Vincent on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 00:41 in reply to "gnash & flash video..."
Xaero_Vincent Member since:
2006-08-18

Too bad Gnash sucks, or did anyway.

Last I checked it wouldn't even play You Tube videos. Thats pretty much a show stopper, IMHO.

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RE[2]: gnash & flash video...
by hobgoblin on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 02:16 in reply to "RE: gnash & flash video..."
hobgoblin Member since:
2005-07-06

0.8.0 seems to be able to do so now.

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/release-0.8.0.txt

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