Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 22:10 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Linux It is not too surprising that Ubuntu came in first in DesktopLinux.com's 2007 Desktop Linux Market Survey, or that Firefox was the topmost browser by far. More interesting is that for the first time ever in the site's annual surveys, GNOME surpassed KDE among desktop environments (45% over 35%), with Xfce a solid third (8%).
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Gnome vs KDE
by Budd on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 22:33 UTC
Budd
Member since:
2005-07-08

Definitely Ubuntu played a major role (if not THE role) in putting Gnome ahead of KDE. I just can't wait KDE's response.

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RE: Gnome vs KDE
by superman on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 22:52 in reply to "Gnome vs KDE"
superman Member since:
2006-08-01

> Definitely Ubuntu played a major role (if not THE role) in putting Gnome ahead of KDE

Please, stop !

Who is the major contributor of Gnome ?
Probably RedHat/Fedora.

> I just can't wait KDE's response.

KDE is not a distribution.

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by buff on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 00:34 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
buff Member since:
2005-11-12

Who is the major contributor of Gnome ?
Probably RedHat/Fedora

Nicely put superman. It always cracks me up when newbie Ubuntu fanboys go over the edge. Your response had me chuckling. Fedora is pretty decent. There is an article running on osnews where Linus Torvalds states he mostly uses Fedora. I love it that even the founder of Linux uses Redhat/Fedora! I use a combination of XFCE running Gnome panel and applications to get the best of both desktops.

Edited 2007-08-23 00:36

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by apoclypse on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 01:32 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I think he meant that because Ubuntu is the top most distro at the moment it would stand to reason that there would be more gnome users because of it. I don't think they said anything about who contributes more to its development. And you are right KDE is not a distro.

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by john on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 01:40 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
john Member since:
2005-11-10

> Definitely Ubuntu played a major role (if not THE role) in putting Gnome ahead of KDE

Please, stop !

Who is the major contributor of Gnome ?
Probably RedHat/Fedora.

> I just can't wait KDE's response.

KDE is not a distribution.



Sorry superman, but put in context, I'll have to side with Budd on this one.

He didn't say that Ubuntu was the major contributor of Gnome. He said that Ubuntu played a major role in Gnome coming out ahead of KDE. As far as the poll is concerned, which is the topic of the article, that is probably true. Even though the Ubuntu column included all of the variants, I suspect the majority were using Ubuntu, and most likely, Gnome. Taking his comment out of context so you could slam him and plug Fedora at the same time isn't exactly fair.

As for his comment about KDE, I suspect he is referring to the release of KDE4. I know that a lot of Gnome users (myself included) are looking forward to seeing what it has to offer.

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by Tuishimi on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 16:58 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

I took that post to mean that the popularity of gnome is in part due to the popularity of ubuntu? Am I missing something here?

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RE: Gnome vs KDE
by shapeshifter on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 06:29 in reply to "Gnome vs KDE"
shapeshifter Member since:
2006-09-19

Definitely Ubuntu played a major role (if not THE role) in putting Gnome ahead of KDE. I just can't wait KDE's response.


Of course.
If you take the 30% that Ubuntu has and subtract it from Gnome then Gnome would only have about 15%.
Even more interestingly, give the 30% to KDE and it has 65% of the desktop share.
Ubuntu basically put Gnome on the map.

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by superstoned on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 07:35 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

though Ubuntu was important for Gnome, I think your numbers are a bit 'weird statistics'...

I think these numbers simply show how Gnome finally catched up with KDE, the latter not having a release for 2 years now... I think it's pretty realistic to say the latest Gnome is pretty equivalent to the latest KDE. 2.20 might be a bit more usable, KDE 3.5.x might have a few more features, but overall - each is approximately as good as the other one. Of course, I expect KDE 4 to change that ;-)

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RE: Gnome vs KDE
by borker on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 13:41 in reply to "Gnome vs KDE"
borker Member since:
2006-04-04

I'm not sure how much I'd believe the numbers this year... there is a discussion on the dot where some of the KDE guys were keeping an eye on the totals and they saw some odd behavior. One quote from that thread:

Between Thursday and Friday the total number of voters increased
by about 10000 voters, all or most of which were OpenSUSE+GNOME.

I wonder why desktoplinux.com doesn't bother to also publish a graph
of their traffic sources...

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by leos on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 15:22 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

I'm not sure how much I'd believe the numbers this year... there is a discussion on the dot where some of the KDE guys were keeping an eye on the totals and they saw some odd behavior.


Absolutely. I noticed this as well. Gnome and KDE were neck and neck, and then suddenly almost 10,000 votes were added in favour of Gnome and OpenSUSE within a day. There's no way those are legit.

Also, even though desktoplinux said that they would not allow multiple votes from the same IP, I had no trouble voting again to see the intermediate results, from the same machine (I made sure to vote "other" so as not to skew the results too much ;) ). But it really shows that the results are pretty much useless.

I'm really shocked that there is not more discussion on here about how these results mean just about nothing. Is everyone just blindly believing things they read on the internet these days?

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RE: Gnome vs KDE
by nutshell42 on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 14:47 in reply to "Gnome vs KDE"
nutshell42 Member since:
2006-01-12

Definitely Ubuntu played a major role (if not THE role) in putting Gnome ahead of KDE. I just can't wait KDE's response.

It *might* have played a major role in putting Gnome *usage* ahead of KDE. But this survey is useless to support that conclusion.
Read my thoughts on it here (and btw. I wrote those in a year when KDE won even though I use KDE):

http://osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=15590&comment_id=155116

http://osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=15590&comment_id=155152

Edited 2007-08-23 14:51

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