Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 22:10 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Linux It is not too surprising that Ubuntu came in first in DesktopLinux.com's 2007 Desktop Linux Market Survey, or that Firefox was the topmost browser by far. More interesting is that for the first time ever in the site's annual surveys, GNOME surpassed KDE among desktop environments (45% over 35%), with Xfce a solid third (8%).
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RE[3]: Gnome vs KDE
by superstoned on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 07:19 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2005-07-07

We all know (at least, most, I guess) how much Red Hat contributes to Gnome. But due to Ubuntu's popularity on the survey, it skews the numbers of KDE vs Gnome in favor of Gnome. I guess that's what he said.

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RE[4]: Gnome vs KDE
by anda_skoa on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 17:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2005-07-07

ut due to Ubuntu's popularity on the survey, it skews the numbers of KDE vs Gnome in favor of Gnome.


I wouldn't say it skews the numbers. It definitely has a significant impact, but "skew" indicates a kind of error in the result and don't think it does.

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RE[5]: Gnome vs KDE
by superstoned on Fri 24th Aug 2007 09:48 in reply to "RE[4]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2005-07-07

True, I was a bit unsure about the wording myself ;-)

There was some discussion about this on the DOT:

http://dot.kde.org/1187823215/

Worth a read, imho.

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RE[4]: Gnome vs KDE
by gustl on Fri 24th Aug 2007 10:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2006-01-19

This year the German newsticker Heise had the survey on it's frontcover for a while. This might explain the large upsurge of Suse usage (by 8% points from last year).

I don't know, is the standard desktop of OpenSuse KDE or Gnome? If it is Gnome (like for commercial Suse), then maybe this is a part of the higher Gnome numbers.

I think what we also see here is the "standard desktop" effect. Ubuntu, Fedora, Redhat, Suse, OpenSuse(?), Debian (and I think most Debian derivates), they all have Gnome as standard desktop. From the large Distros it seems that only Mandriva has set KDE as standard. Even Kubuntu, although not exactly hidden, is not as widely known as Ubuntu, especially not amongst Linux-newbies (which decide about growth numbers. Dell offers Ubuntu pre-installed.
As we can see with MS Explorer, many users do not put in the energy to try out several choices, but stay with what is pre-set.
Maybe KDE is not hitting the big bells enough. On the other hand, KDE is not a company, so a following of 10% would easily suffice to keep the project alive and healthy, which in the end is all that counts for me ;) .

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RE[5]: Gnome vs KDE
by GeneralZod on Fri 24th Aug 2007 10:16 in reply to "RE[4]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2007-08-03

"I don't know, is the standard desktop of OpenSuse KDE or Gnome? If it is Gnome (like for commercial Suse), then maybe this is a part of the higher Gnome numbers."

According to this survey, OpenSUSE users prefer KDE dramatically (72% vs 22%) :

http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/49/OpenSUSE_102_survey.pdf

(This is why the combination OpenSUSE+GNOME+Evolution+Firefox etc mentioned in the KDE dot article is viewed with so much suspicion, by the way).

I'm not sure what steps were taken in this survey to ensure that minimal cheating occurred, though.

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