Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 22:10 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Linux It is not too surprising that Ubuntu came in first in DesktopLinux.com's 2007 Desktop Linux Market Survey, or that Firefox was the topmost browser by far. More interesting is that for the first time ever in the site's annual surveys, GNOME surpassed KDE among desktop environments (45% over 35%), with Xfce a solid third (8%).
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RE[2]: KDE/Gnome
by ValiSystem on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 12:01 UTC in reply to "RE: KDE/Gnome"
ValiSystem
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2006-02-28

Pat Volkerding gave up on gnome because of maintenance complexity, _not_ because of gnome complexity. There is a huge difference between bloat on the backstage (maintenance, development for devs, compilation, installation for power users/distro developers), and bloat on the stage (slow response, big memory footprint, weird bugs/crashes, brain-dead UI consistency and usability). One refers to the code itself, the other refers to what the code is doing.

[edit: typo]

Edited 2007-08-23 12:02

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RE[3]: KDE/Gnome
by Yagami on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 13:52 in reply to "RE[2]: KDE/Gnome"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

and if you cared to read the parent before replying to me , you would read that the parent was refering to "too many apps , and too much disk usage".

that is much more related to maintenance than what code is doing

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RE[3]: KDE/Gnome
by sbergman27 on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 13:58 in reply to "RE[2]: KDE/Gnome"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

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Pat Volkerding gave up on gnome because of maintenance complexity, _not_ because of gnome complexity.

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Indeed. To put that in perspective, it took over 3 and a half years from the release of kernel 2.6.0 for Slackware to move from 2.4.x to 2.6.x. Until last month, Slackware was still 2.4.x-based.

What Patrick accomplishes may be impressive for a one man show. But an impressive one man show is still a one man show. His human resources are extremely limited, and KDE definitely comes with less in the way of dependency issues.

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RE[3]: KDE/Gnome
by ThawkTH on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 14:02 in reply to "RE[2]: KDE/Gnome"
ThawkTH Member since:
2005-07-06

Erm. Both things a distro maintainer should ALWAYS take into account when constructing a distro.

Really, they're just different DE's. Some people prefer Apples, other Oranges. That's it. Some people will fly around KDE, know every shortcut, intuitively understand dialog boxes, settings, etc.
Those same people will feel Gnome is clunky, boxy, overly restricted and limited with a lack of configuration/tweaking options.

The same goes the opposite way - Gnome users may find KDE too cluttered and complex, etc.

What the REALITY is most users have used both. Most people aren't religious about it. It reminds me of the Red vs. Blue talk in the USA that polarizes so many people for no reason. Most are in the middle and have their preferences.

Fighting about it is pointless...

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