Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2007 22:10 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Linux It is not too surprising that Ubuntu came in first in DesktopLinux.com's 2007 Desktop Linux Market Survey, or that Firefox was the topmost browser by far. More interesting is that for the first time ever in the site's annual surveys, GNOME surpassed KDE among desktop environments (45% over 35%), with Xfce a solid third (8%).
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RE: Gnome vs KDE
by borker on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 13:41 UTC in reply to "Gnome vs KDE"
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Member since:
2006-04-04

I'm not sure how much I'd believe the numbers this year... there is a discussion on the dot where some of the KDE guys were keeping an eye on the totals and they saw some odd behavior. One quote from that thread:

Between Thursday and Friday the total number of voters increased
by about 10000 voters, all or most of which were OpenSUSE+GNOME.

I wonder why desktoplinux.com doesn't bother to also publish a graph
of their traffic sources...

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RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE
by leos on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 15:22 in reply to "RE: Gnome vs KDE"
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2005-09-21

I'm not sure how much I'd believe the numbers this year... there is a discussion on the dot where some of the KDE guys were keeping an eye on the totals and they saw some odd behavior.


Absolutely. I noticed this as well. Gnome and KDE were neck and neck, and then suddenly almost 10,000 votes were added in favour of Gnome and OpenSUSE within a day. There's no way those are legit.

Also, even though desktoplinux said that they would not allow multiple votes from the same IP, I had no trouble voting again to see the intermediate results, from the same machine (I made sure to vote "other" so as not to skew the results too much ;) ). But it really shows that the results are pretty much useless.

I'm really shocked that there is not more discussion on here about how these results mean just about nothing. Is everyone just blindly believing things they read on the internet these days?

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RE[3]: Gnome vs KDE
by segedunum on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 20:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2005-07-06

I'm really shocked that there is not more discussion on here about how these results mean just about nothing. Is everyone just blindly believing things they read on the internet these days?

Well, there were some voting irregularities in the last survey about a distro I believe, and they were struck off. I wonder why this wasn't discussed?

I also find the shares of OpenSuse and Evolution odd as well, because they were both about a distant third last year.

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RE[3]: Gnome vs KDE
by AdamW on Thu 23rd Aug 2007 23:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Another thing to point out - the poll asked people not to promote it in distro-specific places like mailing lists. Several un-official distro forums, though, had threads urging people to vote for that distro. www.suseforums.net had such a thread and wouldn't remove it when I suggested that might be a good idea.

The forum moderators at the PCLinuxOS official forum and Ubuntuforums.org did remove such threads when I suggested it, and I removed two such threads from the official Mandriva forums.

So, it's also worth considering that when looking at the results.

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RE[3]: Gnome vs KDE
by gustl on Fri 24th Aug 2007 10:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Gnome vs KDE"
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2006-01-19

Absolutely. I noticed this as well. Gnome and KDE were neck and neck, and then suddenly almost 10,000 votes were added in favour of Gnome and OpenSUSE within a day. There's no way those are legit.

Maybe that was the day when the German newsticker "Heise" had a report about this ongoing survey on their front page. German home users are mostly OpenSuse, and OpenSuse defaults to Gnome. So this would be an expected result.

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