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KDE vs. Gnome
by ssa2204 on Fri 24th Aug 2007 02:00 UTC
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2006-04-22

In terms of GUI, I always thought Suse did the best with KDE over any other distro I personally tried, or had seen screenshots of. Ironically over time I have become much more comfortable using Gnome, while at the same time I have become less and less enthralled with the new "Start Menu" clone that really is crap.

Anyone know of any reviews for the latest beta that has some screenshots? I am curious to see what if any changes they have made to the colors, themes, etc..

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RE: KDE vs. Gnome
by Anonymous Penguin on Fri 24th Aug 2007 02:19 in reply to "KDE vs. Gnome"
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2005-07-06

This is a review of Alpha 7, but not much has changed in terms of look and feel, I actually quite like it:

http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/18763

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RE: KDE vs. Gnome
by Soulbender on Fri 24th Aug 2007 03:12 in reply to "KDE vs. Gnome"
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2005-08-18

"less and less enthralled with the new "Start Menu" clone that really is crap."

Amen brother. That horrible abomination they came up with is my biggest issue with OpenSUSE. That, and that it didnt work with my ralink-based wireless but that seems to be broken in the most of the latest kernels so that's not really SUSE's fault.

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RE[2]: KDE vs. Gnome
by Anonymous Penguin on Fri 24th Aug 2007 03:16 in reply to "RE: KDE vs. Gnome"
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2005-07-06

"That horrible abomination they came up with is my biggest issue with OpenSUSE."

OK, but that can be changed in less than 5 seconds ;)

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RE[2]: KDE vs. Gnome
by sgibofh on Fri 24th Aug 2007 05:46 in reply to "RE: KDE vs. Gnome"
sgibofh Member since:
2007-03-31

amen? It's a few clicks away and you have the old setup back again.

I seriusly am wondering how much time y'all have spemt with openSUSE. You *can* switch off the stuff you don't like; there *are* several options available to manage the packages. You don't *need* to use YaST; you even can switch off parts of it,, if you really are so disgusted.

I don't get it. People get HP-UX, bitch about the way it's administered. You give sam, all is a bit better for them. Next, people write a 'supertool' and now, all help is not needed.... sigh.


There may be areas where it's still rough, can be changed but none of them can't be overcome.

I in fact see more problems with the ideas behind other
sets based on ideals that is OK to have but shouldn't be forced upon people who want to *use* a system.

Again, you can tune most of the complaints away, easily.

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RE: KDE vs. Gnome
by segedunum on Fri 24th Aug 2007 12:23 in reply to "KDE vs. Gnome"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

while at the same time I have become less and less enthralled with the new "Start Menu" clone that really is crap.

Yer, and they came up with that 'SLAB' menu, supposedly, after extensive user testing!

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RE[2]: KDE vs. Gnome
by earlycj5 on Fri 24th Aug 2007 15:07 in reply to "RE: KDE vs. Gnome"
earlycj5 Member since:
2007-04-12

Initially I didn't care for the slab menu, now for some reason I like using it.

As for a "Start Menu Clone" a friend of mine who has XP on his laptop was watching me work and was surprised when he saw the slab menu. He mumbled, "all I have is a regular start menu.

To each his own. Not saying you all should like it too, just sayin' some of us do. ;)

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RE[2]: KDE vs. Gnome
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Aug 2007 01:51 in reply to "RE: KDE vs. Gnome"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Yer, and they came up with that 'SLAB' menu, supposedly, after extensive user testing!


Don't believe anything, especially coming from those who were from Ximian (now employed by Novell) - there are alot of fanboys who seem to be hyped up on too much caffeine. 'Extensive user testing' is code for 'we threw the idea around the office, people were ooo'ing and aaah'ing, so we merged it!'.

That is probably the one thing I can't stand - the excessive hype - nothing wrong with promoting and getting excited about an idea, but one has to be grounded in reality and realise when idea that seemed to be cool at the time is useless in every day use.

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