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RE[2]: To moulinneuf
by meianoite on Fri 24th Aug 2007 06:22 UTC in reply to "RE: To moulinneuf"
meianoite
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2006-04-05

On behalf of Canada, I apologize for Moulinneuf.

There is a very small but vocal minority within the French-Canadian population that falls back on racism as an argument for anyone that disagrees with them. It's inexcusable, it's inappropriate, and it is not representative of either Canada or French Canadians as a whole.


No need to excuse yourself ;)

Actually, the fact that figuring out he's a French Canadian (thanks to pointing me the correct way to write it) made he promptly accuse me of insulting his country and his origins was *so* amusing in itself that I can't possibly be pissed at him ;)

Such is the power of comic relief ;)

Not to mention his inability to understand why I obfuscated his name, rather somehow turning it into some capital offence...

Not to mention, too, his inability to distinguish racism from xenophobia, particularly when neither sentiment is taking place (woot!).

But this bit of background info you're sharing with us almost helps me make sense of his actions. Barely. ;)

Moulinneuf is what we in Canada simply refer to as an idiot. Please take his comments for the worthless value they possess, and please don't feed him by bringing up his nationality. I am, frankly, embarrassed as a Canadian and will send everyone a free Molson as a token of apology... ;)


Well, actually, I *always* wanted to visit Canada, particularly the French territories, even more so with the incentives the French Canadian government gives to immigrants looking for jobs there; so I actually know a thing or two about Canada -- hence my somewhat acute perception of his origins.

But I must confess that his behaviour was somewhat disencouraging; a chilling cold shower if you will. But I found your words reassuring; I hope that we'll eventually share a Molson together, for real, while laughing at this episode ;)

There are hockey games on the French side too, right? ;)

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v RE[3]: To moulinneuf
by Moulinneuf on Fri 24th Aug 2007 06:45 in reply to "RE[2]: To moulinneuf"
RE[4]: To moulinneuf
by dylansmrjones on Fri 24th Aug 2007 09:42 in reply to "RE[3]: To moulinneuf"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

But apparently I am the idiot ...


Congratulations. A step in the right direction for you ;)

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RE[3]: To moulinneuf
by meianoite on Fri 24th Aug 2007 06:52 in reply to "RE[2]: To moulinneuf"
meianoite Member since:
2006-04-05

For the love of God.

I'm not talking to moulinneuf anymore, so would someone PLEASE point him to the correct Wikipedia article on xenophobia?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia :

As with all phobias, a xenophobic person is aware of the fear, and therefore has to believe at some level that the target is in fact a foreigner. This arguably separates xenophobia from racism and ordinary prejudice in that someone of a different race does not necessarily have to be of a different nationality. In various contexts, the terms "xenophobia" and "racism" seem to be used interchangably, though they have wholly different meanings (xenophobia being based on place on birth, racism being based on genetic ancestory). For example: to dislike a black person from France because they are French is Xenophobic, but if one does not like them because they are black, it is racism.


Edit: and I still fail to understand his reasoning for calling me racist, or even xenophobe for the matter -- I clearly am neither.

(To add insult to injury: my best friend is currently living in Nantes, France, and his father *is* French, born and raised. I, myself, have my family origins in France, Portugal and Lebanon.

So, again, is moulinneuf a member of the Non-sequitur Practitioner's Club or something? Or perhaps he's just been rehearsing some horrendous remake of some discarded and never-aired Monty Python sketch, and we all fell for it?...)

Edited 2007-08-24 07:10

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by Moulinneuf on Fri 24th Aug 2007 06:59 in reply to "RE[3]: To moulinneuf"
RE[4]: To moulinneuf
by meianoite on Fri 24th Aug 2007 07:18 in reply to "RE[3]: To moulinneuf"
meianoite Member since:
2006-04-05

Now, a little mental exercise, which I hope someone will point our current king of negative moddings at.

Suppose there's a Wikipedia article on fruit. You find a big box there that enlists fruit such as apples, oranges, bananas, watermelons. While there's no doubt they're all fruit, does that entail some kind of sweeping generalisation that make apples the same as oranges, bananas the same as watermelons, so that by extension one can be offered a lemonade and be given tomato juice and no one can possibly tell the difference?

Oh Lord, why do I keep grasping for a fibre of logic among his words when there's none to be found...

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RE[4]: To moulinneuf
by Obscurus on Fri 24th Aug 2007 12:57 in reply to "RE[3]: To moulinneuf"
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2006-04-20

I'm not talking to moulinneuf anymore, so would someone PLEASE point him to the correct Wikipedia article on xenophobia?


There really is no point. He is what we in Australia colloquially term a wanker or a bloody drongo (to put it mildly). He clearly has kangaroos loose in his top paddock, and is as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike. His insults are like being flogged with a warm lettuce leaf (to coin a phrase), because you can't understand what on earth he is trying to say. Such individuals transcend nationality and ethnicity, and they are instantly recognisable for what they are as soon as they open their mouth or put finger to keyboard. The only way to help him is to not respond to his posts.

Such people are not worth talking to, so don't waste too much time on him. I really don't see why he isn't banned quite frankly, as he contributes nothing but personal insults and random unintelligible gibberish.

Please feel free to mod me down for this post - it is grossly off topic, and contains offensive language and personal insults.

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RE[3]: To moulinneuf
by elsewhere on Sat 25th Aug 2007 01:55 in reply to "RE[2]: To moulinneuf"
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Well, actually, I *always* wanted to visit Canada, particularly the French territories, even more so with the incentives the French Canadian government gives to immigrants looking for jobs there; so I actually know a thing or two about Canada -- hence my somewhat acute perception of his origins.

But I must confess that his behaviour was somewhat disencouraging; a chilling cold shower if you will. But I found your words reassuring; I hope that we'll eventually share a Molson together, for real, while laughing at this episode ;)


Don't let him discourage you. Montreal is an incredible city, in fact if it wasn't for the f$@@! g*#$*#$ d*$*#$ winters, I'd live there. It is one of the most cosmopolitan cities you'll find in North America, has one of the most vibrant night life scenes, and Old Montreal is an incredible place to kill an afternoon or an evening, as one of the oldest historical settlements in NA.

Quebec City is also a beautiful city with an incredible night life and some stunning architecture, but if you don't speak French, you'll have to tell people you're American. That they can accept because they relish tourist dollars and US acceptance if the dream of separation ever happens, but they really don't like Anglophone Canadians so it's best to stress your non-Canadian-ness when visiting there... ;)

But seriously, don't let Moulinidiot dissuade you, Quebec is easily one of the most exciting and intriguing place to visit or live in all of North America.

There are hockey games on the French side too, right? ;)


The Montreal Canadiens - Toronto Maple Leafs rivarly is the oldest grudge in the NHL... The Stanley Cup playoffs don't generate the same energy level you see when watching both teams play against each other in either city. Phenomenal. ;)

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